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Re: [dsdp-mtj-dev] possible involvement?

Hi, Chinese version of "get started" docs is available now [1]. Who can review this?

best regards,
Jin Mingjian

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=290089


2009/9/23 Jin Mingjian <jin.phd@xxxxxxxxx>
Christian:

Hi, I've done a few translations yesterday. However, my lab connectivity is poor. The translating process is not nice, which was mention at[1]. I will finish this work in home. But the other  thing is my home connectivity is counted by time in this month. For this reason, although the content of work is not hard, I will push some work into the next month. But I think the time of next month will be enough to finish the Chinese translation. 
I will translation the "get started" docs first. And at same time I will review the sources of MTJ :)


[1] http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=154648&start=0&S=725f471bcb1bd0d756dddaaeb654bb5a



2009/9/23 Christian Kurzke <christian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Thanks Jin!!

Let us know if there is anything you need help with on the translation!

And yes - i agree with you, many Chinese developers probably use the English version of the tool, but it may be easier, esp. for school classes or younger developers to have an easy to use version localised to chinese.

-Christian


Jin Mingjian wrote:
Thanks, Christian and Craig! I like our responsive community. It, at least, shows the respect for the users. And after that, users will like to use and boost the product.
 Another thing is, how to contribute to Eclipse is an old story for me:) Don't be worried about this for me, I'm very clear about the IP principle of Eclipse. In fact, I submitted one test codes for WTP-incubator's XPATH2 w3c test [1] at the early of this year. Those codes have passed the Eclipse IP process.

I think the MJT should be the standard tools for Chinese mobile developers although I have a little away from the mobile dev in these years. Your idea should be very useful. Although I'd like to keep using the English version for Eclipse products. But localized version of those docs will help the native newcomer very much. I will complete the two tasks from now
1. MTJ translation to Chinese language 2. "how to get started" guide in Chinese

I will open 2 bugs to trace the process. And I think they will coming soon.

I am starting to be involving MTJ now. yeah:) I will use the bugzilla to organize  the my development activities, However,  I will post the results or the processes if needed into the maillist/newsgroup/wiki to make other committers or community being aware the status.

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=262765





2009/9/22 Craig Setera <craigjunk@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:craigjunk@xxxxxxxxxx>>


   Strangely, I just saw this come through my blog reader...
   http://www.eclipse.org/resources/resource.php?id=514

   It may be interesting to look at as well.


   On 9/21/09 4:22 PM, Christian Kurzke wrote:

       Hi Jin,

       Thanks for your interest to join the MTJ project.

       As i described in a newsgroup post earlier today, there is
       many different ways how somebody can "help" on the project.
       see:
       http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=rview&goto=487053&th=154558#msg_487053
       <http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=rview&goto=487053&th=154558#msg_487053>


       Since you seem to be very familiar with Eclipse programming, i
       think a good start may be to fix some bugs and submit code for
       that.

       There is nothing in MTJ that is "hidden" from you, "what you
       see is what you get". ;)  We try to be as transparent as
       possible, and most of the "good" information is actually
       happening on this mailing list.

       One of the areas where we could need some help is organizing
       our WIKI, and make it more useful for people who are new to
       the project, like yourself!!
       (hint:  if you see something on the wiki which is outdated or
       you think can be improved... it's editable, feel free to
       change/contribute)

       If you have ideas for new features (like your proposed CDC
       support), i encourage you to write a short summary and start a
       discussion on the mailing list.

       Another very good skill you can help us with, would be to
       promote MTJ in China.
       We seem to have a lot of downloads from China, but dont get a
       lot of feedback.
       .. do you think MTJ works fine for Chinese developers?
       Should we have a localized/translated version? Can you help us???
       Or would you like to write a "how to get started" guide in
       Chinese??

       As you see, there is A LOT that can be done, and your help is
       very welcome!

       IF you need help to get started on the Bugzilla "bug-fixing",
       e.g. how to assign a bug to yourself, let us know (on the
       mailing list).
       When you work on a bugfix, please keep also in mind the
       Eclipse development process, especially, keep in mind that you
       cannot use
       ANY code in your bugfix which is not written by yourself.
       IF you use any other code (e.g. from anothe open source
       project), you have to tell in your bug description, and we
       have to follow the
       Eclipse IP process.

       As for the "official" process to work in eclipse - if you are
       not already familiar, please have a look at:
       http://www.eclipse.org/legal/committerguidelines.php


       Again, thanks for your interest in our project, and - I look
       forward to hear back from you!


       Christian





       Jin Mingjian wrote:

           Hi, all,

           I'd add some forces to MTJ if it is welcome:) I get some
           "HelpWanted" infos from Craig Setera at [1]. Recently, I
           posted some "InvolvementWanted" infos to other Eclipse
           projects. But have not got validate feedbacks, which is
           mentioned in my blog[2]. I am not sure whether your guies
           would like to accept me?:)

           I  used to use the EclipseME 4 years ago.  The basic
           functionalities for EclipseME in my memory is much nice as
           a tool for Sun WTK. Now, maybe we can widen the zone under
           the umbrella of MTJ.
           I have not seen the detail future plan of MTJ from the
           website or wiki. Are there some links hidden from me? I
           just add some my coarse ideas about what I can do under MTJ.

           1. bug fixing. I suggest to make bugs to be assignned to
           me, or I leave a mark to the bugs(before being as a
           committer). Let's avoiding duplicated fixings. There seem
           not much bugs opened by users?(good enough or rare
           user?^_^) So, I guess this task is easy.
           2. cooperate with some sub-projects in MTJ if have.
           3. some ideas for future MTJ.  from the name of MTJ, we do
           anything about mobile tools for java. there are many
           things that would be done under MTJ:

           1> advocate fluent(smooth) workflow. that is, MTJ just add
           more or less convenience especailly for mobile side, And I
           as a Java programmer from other side, MTJ could be easily
           integrated into their toolboxs.(maybe It is not problem
           for current MTJ).( Maybe we can add some toolings to
           mobile workflow side or codes migration? ) 2>
           interoperation with existed mobile efforts in the  Eclipse
           firstly. such as provide configuration/graphical tooling
           support for mobile OSGI/eRCP/eSWT...  I'd like to do some
           work under this aspects if MTJ think it acceptable.
           3> CDC side tooling. I play some CDC things recently[2].
           It is a cool technology. I am not sure whether the MTJ
           support this side things (such as J2ME SDK support?). With
           the mobile become more powerful. CDC side things will
           become more important. I'd like to do some work under this
           aspects if MTJ think it acceptable.
           4> other mobile platform support. MTJ has done good work.
           There are still many potential works.
           >From reasons of some committers leaving, I guess Android
           will not put into the MTJ recently? Because android  do
           not support Java?
           5> construct mobile java tooling infrastructure, to foster
           more advanced mobile java technologies tooling on the top
           of MTJ. 6> others....


           Best regards,
           Jin Mingjian


           [1] http://www.setera.org/2009/09/19/eclipse-mtj-help-wanted/
           [2]
           http://jmj-eclipse.blogspot.com/2009/09/phoneme-advanced-and-eswt-running-under.html

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