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Re: [dsdp-mtj-dev] possible involvement?

Thanks Jin!!

Let us know if there is anything you need help with on the translation!

And yes - i agree with you, many Chinese developers probably use the English version of the tool, but it may be easier, esp. for school classes or younger developers to have an easy to use version localised to chinese.

-Christian


Jin Mingjian wrote:
Thanks, Christian and Craig! I like our responsive community. It, at least, shows the respect for the users. And after that, users will like to use and boost the product. Another thing is, how to contribute to Eclipse is an old story for me:) Don't be worried about this for me, I'm very clear about the IP principle of Eclipse. In fact, I submitted one test codes for WTP-incubator's XPATH2 w3c test [1] at the early of this year. Those codes have passed the Eclipse IP process.

I think the MJT should be the standard tools for Chinese mobile developers although I have a little away from the mobile dev in these years. Your idea should be very useful. Although I'd like to keep using the English version for Eclipse products. But localized version of those docs will help the native newcomer very much. I will complete the two tasks from now 1. MTJ translation to Chinese language 2. "how to get started" guide in Chinese

I will open 2 bugs to trace the process. And I think they will coming soon.

I am starting to be involving MTJ now. yeah:) I will use the bugzilla to organize the my development activities, However, I will post the results or the processes if needed into the maillist/newsgroup/wiki to make other committers or community being aware the status.

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=262765





2009/9/22 Craig Setera <craigjunk@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:craigjunk@xxxxxxxxxx>>

    Strangely, I just saw this come through my blog reader...
    http://www.eclipse.org/resources/resource.php?id=514

    It may be interesting to look at as well.


    On 9/21/09 4:22 PM, Christian Kurzke wrote:

        Hi Jin,

        Thanks for your interest to join the MTJ project.

        As i described in a newsgroup post earlier today, there is
        many different ways how somebody can "help" on the project.
        see:
        http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=rview&goto=487053&th=154558#msg_487053
        <http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=rview&goto=487053&th=154558#msg_487053>


        Since you seem to be very familiar with Eclipse programming, i
        think a good start may be to fix some bugs and submit code for
        that.

        There is nothing in MTJ that is "hidden" from you, "what you
        see is what you get". ;)  We try to be as transparent as
        possible, and most of the "good" information is actually
        happening on this mailing list.

        One of the areas where we could need some help is organizing
        our WIKI, and make it more useful for people who are new to
        the project, like yourself!!
        (hint:  if you see something on the wiki which is outdated or
        you think can be improved... it's editable, feel free to
        change/contribute)

        If you have ideas for new features (like your proposed CDC
        support), i encourage you to write a short summary and start a
        discussion on the mailing list.

        Another very good skill you can help us with, would be to
        promote MTJ in China.
        We seem to have a lot of downloads from China, but dont get a
        lot of feedback.
        .. do you think MTJ works fine for Chinese developers?
        Should we have a localized/translated version? Can you help us???
        Or would you like to write a "how to get started" guide in
        Chinese??

        As you see, there is A LOT that can be done, and your help is
        very welcome!

        IF you need help to get started on the Bugzilla "bug-fixing",
        e.g. how to assign a bug to yourself, let us know (on the
        mailing list).
        When you work on a bugfix, please keep also in mind the
        Eclipse development process, especially, keep in mind that you
        cannot use
        ANY code in your bugfix which is not written by yourself.
        IF you use any other code (e.g. from anothe open source
        project), you have to tell in your bug description, and we
        have to follow the
        Eclipse IP process.

        As for the "official" process to work in eclipse - if you are
        not already familiar, please have a look at:
        http://www.eclipse.org/legal/committerguidelines.php


        Again, thanks for your interest in our project, and - I look
        forward to hear back from you!


        Christian





        Jin Mingjian wrote:

            Hi, all,

            I'd add some forces to MTJ if it is welcome:) I get some
            "HelpWanted" infos from Craig Setera at [1]. Recently, I
            posted some "InvolvementWanted" infos to other Eclipse
            projects. But have not got validate feedbacks, which is
            mentioned in my blog[2]. I am not sure whether your guies
            would like to accept me?:)

            I  used to use the EclipseME 4 years ago.  The basic
            functionalities for EclipseME in my memory is much nice as
            a tool for Sun WTK. Now, maybe we can widen the zone under
            the umbrella of MTJ.
            I have not seen the detail future plan of MTJ from the
            website or wiki. Are there some links hidden from me? I
            just add some my coarse ideas about what I can do under MTJ.

            1. bug fixing. I suggest to make bugs to be assignned to
            me, or I leave a mark to the bugs(before being as a
            committer). Let's avoiding duplicated fixings. There seem
            not much bugs opened by users?(good enough or rare
            user?^_^) So, I guess this task is easy.
            2. cooperate with some sub-projects in MTJ if have.
            3. some ideas for future MTJ.  from the name of MTJ, we do
            anything about mobile tools for java. there are many
            things that would be done under MTJ:

            1> advocate fluent(smooth) workflow. that is, MTJ just add
            more or less convenience especailly for mobile side, And I
            as a Java programmer from other side, MTJ could be easily
            integrated into their toolboxs.(maybe It is not problem
            for current MTJ).( Maybe we can add some toolings to
            mobile workflow side or codes migration? ) 2>
            interoperation with existed mobile efforts in the  Eclipse
            firstly. such as provide configuration/graphical tooling
            support for mobile OSGI/eRCP/eSWT...  I'd like to do some
            work under this aspects if MTJ think it acceptable.
            3> CDC side tooling. I play some CDC things recently[2].
            It is a cool technology. I am not sure whether the MTJ
            support this side things (such as J2ME SDK support?). With
            the mobile become more powerful. CDC side things will
            become more important. I'd like to do some work under this
            aspects if MTJ think it acceptable.
            4> other mobile platform support. MTJ has done good work.
            There are still many potential works.
            >From reasons of some committers leaving, I guess Android
            will not put into the MTJ recently? Because android  do
            not support Java?
            5> construct mobile java tooling infrastructure, to foster
            more advanced mobile java technologies tooling on the top
            of MTJ. 6> others....


            Best regards,
            Jin Mingjian


            [1] http://www.setera.org/2009/09/19/eclipse-mtj-help-wanted/
            [2]
            http://jmj-eclipse.blogspot.com/2009/09/phoneme-advanced-and-eswt-running-under.html

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