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Re: [cosmos-dev] Oliver Action Item - Elevator Pitch

 So far, it looks like Wed Mar 21 at 2PM EDT.    Chris? Don?

This is an excellent start. Thanks. We still have to distill into an elevator speech and I will drive towards that in the conference call. I notice how you cleverly avoided the subject of an elevator pitch by saying "and a roadmap toward the remaining work" ;) Excellent go at the slides other than your cowardly ducking of that one subject.

In the following, I sound certain because it is faster to make progress for the elevator pitch. Feel free to take constructive objection to any particular statement either privately or to the mailing list. This discussion will continue on the phone call.......

The June software delivery is a toy monitoring system that people can hook up their own data collector, repository and user interface. The toy is not planned to mature to a usable solution. The charter says that we can't mature it. Do we accept this or do we want to change the charter? Sorry about the word toy and we certainly wouldn't call it that in public.....

So, it isn't going to be a monitoring solution without some adopter putting in lot's of effort and noone anticipates an adopter doing that as far as our headlights go (or do one of you plan on doing that?).

 So, the raison d'etre for COSMOS is either

i) some software parts of COSMOS that you all are thinking of using, or ii) the specifications developed during COSMOS. Craig has been pretty clear that he is interested in where SML/CML intersects with monitoring and doesn't have specific plans to use any software. I *think* Chris likes the overall architecture, so can leverage the expertise in COSMOS for internal product development. I *think* that Don is kinda the same. I *think* that IBM is aware that open source is coming to "monitoring" over time, and wants to be part of the "crew" that gets this done, but has no specific plans to incorporate any of the results of COSMOS into the IBM product line.

OCS has some monitoring initiatives going on that we are trying to leverage to a business case, and will take bits and pieces of eclipse (mostly tptp and cosmos) when (?) we can solidify the business case. I am hoping that this solidification occurs in the next couple of months....

If the above is true, then the major "benefit" for COSMOS is to distill industry experience and "best practices" into an actual executable example/testbed. There are two aspects to this: i) COSMOS is starting from "scratch" so that compatibility and reuse of IBM/CA/Compuware/GroundWork code does not impede doing "the right thing", and ii) having participation from many different vendors, many divergent brains are good.

The purpose of the COSMOS developed software, then, is to demonstrate a monitoring architecture of the future.

   ??

  Chris, Don, can you make the call on the 21st?

--oec

Craig Thomas wrote:

Hi Oliver,

Thanks for pulling this together.

With regard to meeting logistics, here are my preferences:

  1. Mon, 19-Mar, 2pm EDT/11am PDT
  2. Wed, 21-Mar, 2pm EDT/11am PDT
  3. Wed, 21-Mar, 4pm EDT/1pm PDT

Here's a start at the elevator pitch requirements from my end...

As a constituent of the users of the June delivery of COSMOS, here is what I would like to be able to present to the executives here at GroundWork (in no particular order):

   * Explanation of the state of implementation in June, and a roadmap
     toward the remaining work.
   * Overview of the Eclipse COSMOS community, including an
     understanding of the level of resource commitment from the
     participants.
   * Status of SML and CML standards, including an understanding of the
     ways (in addition to Eclipse COSMOS) that these standards are
     being adopted.
   * Adopter's guide for the June release. This would include just
     enough documentation to allow GroundWork to estimate the work
     needed to integrate a new data collector, a new repository, and a
     simplistic user interface.

With this information, I could inform the executive team of progress, let them understand how other companies in the community have supported the work, and propose continued or increased commitment to the community.

The first bullet, the "state of implementation", could be served by pictures, one with some boxes grayed out to indicate work beyond June, and one or more showing the gray boxes gaining color over subsequent release points.

That last bullet, the "Adopter's guide", would just be a set of references to the documentation we are already planning for the components in the release. I'm not picturing anything extensive or fancy here.

Hope that's the kind of thing you were looking for. If not, please let me know.

Thanks,
   Craig.

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