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Re: [bpel-dev] Collaboration with Apache ODE [WAS: Re: Feedbacks]

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Simon D Moser <SMOSER@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Matthieu,

thanks for the offer. However, you will be happy to find out that one of
your ODE committers, Tammo van Lessen, has been working with me on that
integration. Thus, as a team, we were able to figure out most questions for
the corresponding side ;-)

Yeah, Tammo told me that a few months ago. Just wanted to reiterate for good measure :) Also Tammo always does an awesome job but he only has two hands (although I've never met him yet, so he could actually have three), so a little bit of backing never hurts.

Anyway, really nice to see your progress.

Cheers,
Matthieu
 

Cheers
Simon

Simon Moser, M.Eng.



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 From:       "Matthieu Riou" <matthieu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

 To:         "BPEL Designer project developer discussions." <bpel-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>

 Cc:         dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 Date:       29.05.2008 18:18

 Subject:    [bpel-dev] Collaboration with Apache ODE [WAS: Re: Feedbacks]






Hi,

I'm taking this opportunity to uncloak and propose some help :) If you need
more information on how to better integrate with the ODE compiler or deploy
processes, feel free to ask on dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, we'll be happy to help,
provide some code examples or pointers to existing code. Also if you're
experiencing issues with the ODE compiler or runtime, we can discuss what
could be improved.

In any case, we're happy to collaborate :)

Cheers,
Matthieu

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Simon D Moser <SMOSER@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 Hi Pierre,

 the charter of the project basically requires us to show a "reference
 runtime integration". Now since this is a multi-party project, we sort of
 agreed on the fact that we will show that "reference runtime" to be
 Apache
 ODE. Having said that, there has been works in the past by Bruno
 Wassermann
 in London who wrote an integration to the ActiveBPEL engine. This
 basically
 means: there is a common runtime integration framework that is part of
 the
 official project. Then there is an ActiveBPEL integration  (which is not
 part of the official project), an Apache ODE integration (which is not
 complete yet, but will be an official part of the project), and obviously
 you can write an integration for Orchestra (again, probably not part of
 the
 official project).

 "Official part" here means that we won't package and ship the plugins as
 part of a BPEL Designer Release.

 As for you last question - how to become a committer: This is the
 standard
 eclipse procedure. This means: You fix bugs (e.g. by attaching patches to
 bugzilla) or you make code contributions to the project, and then one
 existing committer can initiate a nomination process. If then a majority
 of
 the existing committers agree the person gets the committer status. In
 other words: You have to prove your talent first before you can become a
 committer ;-)

 Cheers
 Simon

 Simon Moser, M.Eng.



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  From:       Pierre Vigneras <pierre.vigneras@xxxxxxxx>

  To:         bpel-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx

  Date:       27.05.2008 15:52

  Subject:    Re: [bpel-dev] Feedbacks






 Le Monday 19 May 2008 18:00:27 bpel-dev-request@xxxxxxxxxxx, vous avez
 écrit :
 > Message: 2
 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:48:19 +0200
 > From: Simon D Moser <SMOSER@xxxxxxxxxx>
 > Subject: Re: [bpel-dev] Feedbacks
 > To: "BPEL Designer project developer discussions."
 >            <bpel-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 > Cc: bpel-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx, bpel-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
 > Message-ID:
 >
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 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 >
 > Hello Pierre,
 >
 > welcome! Let me try to answer your questions:

 Sorry for the delay...

 > Re 1.) The correlation bug, I think, is not fixed. I just tried the
 > If-Elseif-issue on the trunk and IMHO this is correct. We are still on
 CVS
 > rather than SVN ;-)

 Ok. CVS is also fine for us, its open-source! ;-)

 > In the Trunk, you can also add a FaultHandler to the Process. Give it a
 try
 > please ;-)

 I am currently downloading all the required libraries in a separate fresh
 Eclipse development environment...
 I will give it  a try.

 > Re 2.) As currently stated, the BPEL Designer is about to Release M4
 (last
 > missing piece is a runtime integration).

 Well, what do you mean by runtime integration? We have an open-source
 BPEL
 engine
 Orchestra (see: http://orchestra.objectweb.org/). It would be great if
 the
 BPEL editor can integrate
 smoothly with our BPEL engine. This is definitely one area where we can
 provide help and support.

 Tell us what is missing, and if Orchestra can be an integration target.

 > Re 3.) You certainly can access the cvs "trunk" (its called HEAD
 there;-)
 > ;-) http://www.eclipse.org/bpel/install.php - step 3 gives you the
 > necessary data.

 Done. Thanks.

 > Re 4.) Absolutely. Any particular piece you are interested on to work
 on
 ?

 Well, runtime integration with Orchestra is definitely an interesting
 point
 for us.

 > I mean there are a few bugs that need to be addressed (one could just
 > provide patches), but also in case you want to do some functional
 > enhancement - feel free to propose it. Feel free to contact me to
 engage
 in
 > further discussions on the "how".

 Can we gain a committer access? How? What is the  procedure?

 Regards.

 --
 Pierre Vignéras
 Bull, Architect of an Open World TM
 *BPM Team*, Bull R&D
 1, rue de Provence
 38130 Echirolles (France)
 Direct Line: +33-4-76-29-74-06

 *Orchestra*, The BPEL open source project: http://orchestra.objectweb.org
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