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Re: [atf-dev] JavaScript Editor/Development Tool Proposal
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On 11/13/06, Robert Goodman <goodmanr@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The ATF team has had discussion with both the Aptana and JSEclipse teams.
[...]
Thanks for taking time to explain, much appreciated.
Just a little more on the issue on the ATF team being contaminated by
looking at JSEclipse or Aptana. Along with being able to put it our own
editor on eclipse, the companies who integrate ATF into their products, also
have to feel the code is free of legal issues.
I can understand that. I take it the fact that Aptana's code is
licensed under EPL is not enough?
Nickolay
Thanks
Bob
Robert Goodman
atf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/09/2006 07:05:35 AM:
> Thanks for your answers.
>
> I do think that investigating if parts of their code can be reused
> (even if it's a fork) is better than just rewriting everything from
> scratch (well, from JDT).
>
> My gut feeling is that their code should be easier to refactor into
> what you need than a -Java- editor. Of course I haven't actually
> looked into it yet, so I shouldn't talk about it.
>
> Nickolay
>
> On 11/9/06, Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Nickolay:
> > I think that would be great if Aptana could consider donating code and
> > joining the project, yet afaik that is NOT their intent.
> > The reason why I say that is from a report by Bjorn FB, on Thursday,
> > August 24, 2006, in his blog:
> >
http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_eclipse-projects_archive
> > .html
> > where he says after a chat with Aptana:
> > "And they're big on open-source: they are going to EPL the entire IDE
> > (although I couldn't convince them to make it an Eclipse project)."
> >
> > And Eclipse is not in forking business I think ;-)
> >
> > Also, I can see cool stuffs in Aptana, but they are clearly developing
> > something that reinvent the wheels in many ways and strays away from
the
> > Eclipse workbench and project model to rather be their own standalone
> > ide (not that it is a bad thing per se, but it makes integration and
> > reuse elsewhere difficult).
> >
> > Now if you could convince them to join, and contribute that would be
> > great.
> >
> > Similar to Aptana is Interakt's JSEclipse, which is free for
> > non-commercial use (not open source though) , and has been acquired by
> > Adobe.
> > If we could convince them to join and contribute that would be cool
too.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Philippe
> >
> > philippe ombredanne | 1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne at nexb.com
> > nexB - Open by Design (tm) - http://www.nexb.com
> > http://easyeclipse.org -
irc://irc.freenode.net/easyeclipse
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: atf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:atf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nickolay Ponomarev
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:48 PM
> > > To: AJAX Toolkit Framework discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [atf-dev] JavaScript Editor/Development Tool Proposal
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/9/06, Robert Goodman <goodmanr@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In our next milestone of ATF we are planning to write a new
> > > JavaScript
> > > > Editor/Development Tool. The ATF team feels that a good
> > > JavaScript editor
> > > > with a real JavaScript model is needed to provide our next
> > > set of tooling.
> > >
> > > Have you seen aptana? (aptana.com)
> > >
> > > They're working on what seems to be a pretty good eclipse-based web
> > > IDE. It includes a nice JS editor and is licensed under EPL.
> > >
> > > I haven't looked at their code yet, but perhaps it makes sense to
> > > investigate if it's possible to reuse some of their code instead of
> > > starting from scratch. If not, you can at least look at what they
> > > already do for inspiration :)
> > >
> > > Nickolay
> > >
> > > > We have posted a detail proposal on the ATF Web Wiki -
> > > > http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/ATF/JSDT. We
posted the
> > > > proposal to solicit community feedback, additional project
> > > participation,
> > > > and ways the project can be leveraged from the Eclipse
> > > membership-at-large.
> > > > You are invited to comment on and/or join the project.
> > > Please send all
> > > > feedback to the news://eclipse.webtools.atf/ newsgroup.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert Goodman
> > > > goodmanr@xxxxxxxxxx
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