Re: [aspectj-users] AOP tools

[Alexandru Popescu <the.mindstorm.mailinglist@xxxxxxxxx>]

#: mohan.radhakrishnan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx changed the world a bit at a time by saying on  9/15/2005 3:37 
PM :#
> Hi,
>      Actually I was trying to see if we could prototype AspectJ using a
> tool like the one Groovy is using. 
>
> 1. Write some pointcuts in a console. The full code for an aspect and
> other confugurations are not needed.
> 2. Apply them and see the result.

I am worried about this step, as for applying them you already should have written your classes. 
Probably the mechanims would be to have external sources/bytecode for your classes, imported them in 
groovy and than weaved. It may become interesting.

:alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|

> 3. Do the above in an iterative manner.
>
> Wouldn't rapid prototyping like this make the adoption of AspectJ faster
> ?
> (e.g) I could understand how to use hibernate easily using Groovy
> prototyping.
>
>
> I(beginner) might not understand the intricacies of doing something like
> this. 
>
> Thanks,
> Mohan 
>
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> #: Thomas Van de Velde changed the world a bit at a time by saying on
> 9/15/2005 11:15 AM :#
> > Mohan,
> >
> > It might be worth posting this question on the Spring developers 
> > mailing list. The Spring team is thinking about integrating scripting 
> > languages such as Groovy. They already provide a tight integration
> with AspectJ.
> > Rgds,
> > Thomas
>
> While I can see where a scripting language may help you do some
> configuration plumbing, I cannot see a direct use of a scripting
> language for aop (maybe just to have support for AJ in groovy).
>
> How do you intend to prototype aop in a scripting language? Wouldn't
> this still require to write your classes and aspects? Hmmm, maybe I am
> looking into the wrong direction.
>
> :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|
>
> > On 9/15/05, mohan.radhakrishnan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx < 
> > mohan.radhakrishnan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >   I have just started using Groovy and thought a tool like 
> > > groovyconsole would be very useful for AOP. There could many 
> > > difficulties in implementing such a tool that I don't understand but 
> > > it seems a really flexible way to learn and adopt AspectJ. AOP
> prototyping is really easy with this.
> > >  Are there ideas about scripting languages like Groovy, AspectJ and
> Java ?
> > >  Mohan
> > >
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