Bug 44944 - [Wizards] Project Interchange Wizard - Feature
Summary: [Wizards] Project Interchange Wizard - Feature
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: Platform
Classification: Eclipse Project
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version: 3.0   Edit
Hardware: All All
: P5 enhancement with 5 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---   Edit
Assignee: Platform UI Triaged CLA
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Keywords: helpwanted
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Reported: 2003-10-15 16:43 EDT by Bob Dytyniak CLA
Modified: 2019-09-06 15:35 EDT (History)
9 users (show)

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Plugin w/Source, built from 2.1.2 (80.38 KB, application/x-zip-compressed)
2004-01-30 16:12 EST, Ritchie Schacher CLA
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Description Bob Dytyniak CLA 2003-10-15 16:43:35 EDT
article at
http://www7b.software.ibm.com/wsdd/library/techarticles/0309_bergschacher/bergschacher.html
has been donated to eclipse, please include for Eclipse 3.0.
See article for details.
Comment 1 Reginaldo W. Barosa CLA 2003-12-02 11:39:16 EST
Its a NICE FEATURE should be at ECLIPSE..
Comment 2 DJ Houghton CLA 2003-12-02 12:53:29 EST
Due to legal reasons, the easiest way to contribute code to the Eclipse code
base is to post it as an attachment to a bug report.

Please ensure that the source is included in the attachment so the Eclipse team
is able to migrate it into the current code base.

Thanks.
Comment 3 DJ Houghton CLA 2003-12-02 12:58:53 EST
I should note that this is pending time, resources, 3.0 plan, etc.
Comment 4 Bob Dytyniak CLA 2003-12-02 13:09:07 EST
danberg@us.ibm.com (Daniel Berg) and schacher@us.ibm.com (Ritchie Schacher) 
have already contributed the code to Eclipse. I believe it is targeted for 
v3.0. They have already been in contact with the appropriate Eclipse persons 
etc .This bug# was was opened by me as a record of that activity.
Comment 5 DJ Houghton CLA 2003-12-02 13:50:18 EST
The Eclipse contact needs to let us know if it's targeted for Eclipse 3.0 so we
are able to adjust our team plans accordingly. Please have them annotate this
bug report.

Moving to Platform/UI for comments. Tod, let me know if this is in the plan for
3.0 and if there are any Core changes required. Thanks.
Comment 6 Tod Creasey CLA 2003-12-02 14:15:42 EST
We have no plans to add any more features to Eclipse 3.0 but this is a good 
candidate for a contribution outside of the base Eclipse drops.

We should decide on what to do in general about these sort of features.
Comment 7 Ritchie Schacher CLA 2004-01-30 16:12:35 EST
Created attachment 7668 [details]
Plugin w/Source, built from 2.1.2
Comment 8 Ritchie Schacher CLA 2004-01-30 16:15:41 EST
This is something that we'd very much like to see in the eclipse base.  We've 
had numerous customer requests to make this part of the platform.  It makes a 
lot more sense for this to be owned by the platform owners in order that it 
will continue to work from one release to the next.  It should take someone no 
more than a day or so to port this code to eclipse 3.0 and factor it cleanly.  
Note that some of the code is copied from core eclipse classes, simply because 
the base classes were private or because we wanted it to run in both 2.0 and 
2.1.  
Comment 9 Daniel Berg CLA 2004-03-04 22:43:18 EST
I would stress that this get added to Eclipse 3.0 due to the very high 
customer appreciation of this feature.  

The feature greatly improves the usability of your import existing project 
action.  This action is very limiting to many users because they want to be 
able to share content across workspaces without using an SCM.  This feature 
allows a customer to export a set of projects to a zip file and then import 
the projects from the zip file into another workspace.  This is much faster 
than exporting the zip to a location and then using your current action to 
import each project one at a time (extremely time consuming).

Please see 
http://www7b.software.ibm.com/wsdd/library/techarticles/0309_bergschacher/bergs
chacher.html for more details


Again, I would strongly urge that you accept this feature into Eclipse 3.0.
Comment 10 Ritchie Schacher CLA 2004-03-26 10:47:44 EST
Todd, is anything happening with this?
Comment 11 Tod Creasey CLA 2004-03-26 11:44:59 EST
This is not currently on the 3.0 plan. Please also note that we are attempting 
a more lightweight set of funcationality in our plug-ins - new features that 
can be included as an optional upgrade (maybe through an update site) would be 
much more in line with what we are trying to do for 3.0
Comment 12 E Erpenbach CLA 2004-03-26 16:01:41 EST
Will this optional lightweight feature provide the same functionality?  What is 
the difference?  

The ability to zip up an entire workspace is important for me for 3 reasons.
1) When IBM support is resolving problems with WebSphere Studio products it is 
much easier to work with something that is a close as possible copy of a 
workspaces as possible to simulate the customer environment
2) In education classes, it is much more productive if a student can start with 
artifacts in the workspace rather than import in everything or create it.  With 
a simple step of one import, a whole configured workspace could be started with 
and the lab exercise can spend more time focusing on what really matters.
3) Anyone who does not have a SCM between them that wants to share projects.  
While many customers have SCMs, there are still many times when one developer 
does not have access to the same code as another developer and would like to 
view their code and projects.   They then try to copy workspaces around and 
this leads to all kinds of other problems. 

I know I already shown my desire for this feature by voting, but this an 
attempt to plead a case for reconsideration for inclusion in 3.0.   
Comment 13 Jeff Statford CLA 2004-03-26 16:10:20 EST
This is a super feature.

I use it for L2 support, when a customer needs to send me a test case or when
I'm developing or deliverying class material that has to be delivered to a 
diverse audience, either the class room or the internet. 

We can't always count on the student or the customer to have Clear Case or CVS 
and we need to get all the dependencies and meta data in one package because 
the applications are way beyond the Hello World with no dependencies.

Jeff
Comment 14 Bob Dytyniak CLA 2004-03-26 17:09:18 EST
Similar to Eric P's pleading I have to concur but from the perspective of our 
customers. Some of our major customers consider this a critical must have 
feature that should be part of the base Eclipse just as is the team api. How 
can not you see the parallelism with Team api...its just as fundamental in 
function.

In the words of one large customer directed at me: "...please wake up and smell 
the roses (or coffee if you prefer :-) ..."

This is practical day to day usage stuff...thats critical in a product that 
takes itself seriosuly. Given that you have the code..go for it. Lets please 
not get too carried away with the small is good philosophy and ignore what is a 
core requirement
Comment 15 Daniel Berg CLA 2004-03-29 11:15:28 EST
I am assuming that since this is being pushed from a P3 to a P4 that it is not 
going to be included in Eclipse 3.0.  This is a real shame especially since 
this request was opened on 10/15/2003.  I don't know how much more lead time 
is required to make it into a release.
Comment 16 Tod Creasey CLA 2004-04-15 08:51:15 EDT
The issue is not how early you ask but if the PMC thinks this is a feature 
that they want in the base SDK or not.

This was not on the 3.0 plan and would require PMC approval to make it into 
Eclipse which we are trying to reduce the size of.
Comment 17 E Erpenbach CLA 2004-04-15 10:03:13 EDT
Is this the correct place to take a requirement before the PMC?  If not, what 
is the process to have this considered by the PMC and to get an outlook on when 
they will bring this feature in?  
Is there any record that indicates that this was even considered?   
Comment 18 Ritchie Schacher CLA 2004-04-15 11:20:52 EDT
By marking this RESOLVED->WONTFIX, is this saying that this feature request is 
dead and that this will never make it into the platform?

I'd like to reiterate Bob's earlier comments regarding the balance between 
lightweight and core functionality.

I think this needs to stay open.  If it is not going into 3.0, is should be 
considered for the next cycle.
Comment 19 Tod Creasey CLA 2004-04-15 11:38:32 EDT
Kevin Haaland was added to this Bug as he is a PMC member.
Comment 20 Tod Creasey CLA 2004-04-15 11:44:37 EDT
Reopening to mark later.
Comment 21 Tod Creasey CLA 2004-04-15 11:45:02 EDT
Marking for later consideration as requested.
Comment 22 Tod Creasey CLA 2004-06-28 11:28:05 EDT
Reopening now that 3.0 has shipped
Comment 23 Tod Creasey CLA 2004-08-27 13:39:55 EDT
We will not be adding this to SDK unless requested by the PMC. 
Comment 24 Susan McCourt CLA 2009-07-15 12:50:27 EDT
"As per http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_UI/Bug_Triage_Change_2009"
Comment 25 Boris Bokowski CLA 2009-11-26 16:20:53 EST
Prakash is now responsible for watching bugs in the [Wizards] component area.
Comment 26 Eclipse Webmaster CLA 2019-09-06 15:35:41 EDT
This bug hasn't had any activity in quite some time. Maybe the problem got resolved, was a duplicate of something else, or became less pressing for some reason - or maybe it's still relevant but just hasn't been looked at yet.

If you have further information on the current state of the bug, please add it. The information can be, for example, that the problem still occurs, that you still want the feature, that more information is needed, or that the bug is (for whatever reason) no longer relevant.