Bug 281490 - [Import/Export] Inconsistent names for import/export wizards
Summary: [Import/Export] Inconsistent names for import/export wizards
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Platform
Classification: Eclipse Project
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version: 3.5   Edit
Hardware: All All
: P3 normal (vote)
Target Milestone: 4.6 M1   Edit
Assignee: Olivier Prouvost CLA
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Blocks: 493516
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Reported: 2009-06-25 07:52 EDT by Markus Schorn CLA
Modified: 2016-05-24 05:19 EDT (History)
9 users (show)

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The export dialog in Neon (93.00 KB, image/png)
2016-01-08 05:51 EST, Olivier Prouvost CLA
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Description Markus Schorn CLA 2009-06-25 07:52:52 EDT
When selecting 'File - Export' a wizard appears. On its first page I read:
"Select an export destination:"

Some of the choices are indeed locations (e.g.: File System, Archive).
However, most of the choices below name something that I can export (Preferences, Breakpoints, Launch Configs, etc..)

Naming the thing you want to export seems to be natural. Naming the destination
leaves it up to my imagination what I will be exporting (e.g. 'Archive' is really very unspecific about that). 

The label should read "Select what you want to export:" (or similar) and all 
the contributions should consistently name what they can export and optionally where to (e.g. workspace files into archive)

The situation is similar with the import wizards.
Comment 1 Susan McCourt CLA 2009-07-06 17:30:01 EDT
I agree that the wording is poor here.  

Not only that, but the layout is confusing, because at first glance it looks as if the destination is a location that should be specified in the filter box in addition to selecting a "type" of export.

Destination is not involved at all on the first page, just the selection of what is to be exported.  Subsequent pages will prompt for the destination/location or whatever else is needed to complete the export.

So I think the work to be done here is rename the labels to prompt for "what you want to import/export."

I'm not sure what the proper wording would be.  (Kevin?)

Perhaps

What do you want to export?
What do you want to import?


Comment 2 Susan McCourt CLA 2009-07-06 17:30:40 EDT
meant to cc: Kevin for input on the wording.
Comment 3 Eclipse Genie CLA 2015-06-24 06:32:16 EDT
New Gerrit change created: https://git.eclipse.org/r/50775
Comment 4 Eclipse Genie CLA 2015-06-24 06:44:25 EDT
New Gerrit change created: https://git.eclipse.org/r/50777
Comment 7 Mickael Istria CLA 2015-07-03 04:52:35 EDT
Glad to see this fixed.
Shouldn't those patches also be merged in the maintenance branch (small change, low risk, some good UX value...) ?
Comment 8 Dani Megert CLA 2015-08-26 13:29:17 EDT
(In reply to Mickael Istria from comment #7)
> Glad to see this fixed.
> Shouldn't those patches also be merged in the maintenance branch (small
> change, low risk, some good UX value...) ?

The problem is that this changes the strings in two very prominent places and hence will look bad in all translated installations (everything translated except the new string which will appear in English). This is not something we want to do for SR1.

The Help also needs to be updated in order to consider this bug done.
Comment 9 Mickael Istria CLA 2015-08-27 01:57:09 EDT
(In reply to Dani Megert from comment #8)
> The problem is that this changes the strings in two very prominent places
> and hence will look bad in all translated installations (everything
> translated except the new string which will appear in English). This is not
> something we want to do for SR1.

So that means that this bug is corrected for the default language (English), other languages rely on Babel.
Wouldn't it make sense to merge it anyway on maintenance (as it fixes an issue for people who use English - a lot of people), but to keep this Bugzilla open to track translations?

> The Help also needs to be updated in order to consider this bug done.

@Olivier @Alain: Is this something you can propose as a patch?
Comment 10 Dani Megert CLA 2015-08-27 13:10:20 EDT
(In reply to Mickael Istria from comment #9)
> (In reply to Dani Megert from comment #8)
> > The problem is that this changes the strings in two very prominent places
> > and hence will look bad in all translated installations (everything
> > translated except the new string which will appear in English). This is not
> > something we want to do for SR1.
> 
> So that means that this bug is corrected for the default language (English),
> other languages rely on Babel.
> Wouldn't it make sense to merge it anyway on maintenance (as it fixes an
> issue for people who use English - a lot of people), but to keep this
> Bugzilla open to track translations?

No. This is not critical enough to force a mixed GUI on non-English users.
Comment 11 Alain Bernard CLA 2015-09-07 15:58:44 EDT
(In reply to Mickael Istria from comment #9)
> (In reply to Dani Megert from comment #8)
> > The Help also needs to be updated in order to consider this bug done.
> 
> @Olivier @Alain: Is this something you can propose as a patch?

Sure, I can take the action. Do you now if the sample project used in the help (JaneQUser ) can be imported directly, without recreating it ?
Comment 12 Eclipse Genie CLA 2015-10-07 15:54:07 EDT
New Gerrit change created: https://git.eclipse.org/r/57666
Comment 13 Olivier Prouvost CLA 2016-01-08 05:51:07 EST
What about this bug ? 

In neon we have now : 

Select an import wizard
Select an export wizard

I attach the screenshot.. 

Must we update the babel project too ?
Comment 14 Olivier Prouvost CLA 2016-01-08 05:51:41 EST
Created attachment 259075 [details]
The export dialog in Neon
Comment 15 Alain Bernard CLA 2016-01-08 11:18:54 EST
I have updated the help also, as requested by Dani, and committed it in the Gerrit change https://git.eclipse.org/r/57666
Comment 16 Dani Megert CLA 2016-02-16 03:53:48 EST
(In reply to Olivier Prouvost from comment #13)
> What about this bug ? 
> 
> In neon we have now : 
> 
> Select an import wizard
> Select an export wizard
> 
> I attach the screenshot.. 
> 
> Must we update the babel project too ?

Depends who "we" is. I think usually the committers don't do any translations in Babel.
Comment 17 Lars Vogel CLA 2016-04-25 15:11:14 EDT
Mass move to 4.6 RC1. We might push out more to 4.7.
Comment 18 Dani Megert CLA 2016-05-12 08:07:59 EDT
Marking as fixed for 4.6 M1.

Filed bug 493516 to track the remaining doc work.