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Hello, I would make a user comment on the view moving capability ; I'm not sure , as user, it is very useful to be able to move views everywhere in the IDE. For instance, moving outline, package , hierarchy, ..., views are not very easy and not useful... For instance you have at the beginning when you open first your editor the following placement ; a tabbed view with package and hierarchy editors at left , and an outline view on right. You want afterwards place the outline view in the tabbed view but not next the others views, but under like that : package + hierarchy outline It is very difficult to obtain such a configuration... Another poinbt is also to multiplicity of configuration possible ; you can have fast views on the left part of the window, or tabbed views, or duplicated windows, java browsinf views, and so on... I think it is very impressive to show the capabilities of the Eclispe Framework, but quite confusing for the user... I thnink, form my own experience of many tools, that less configuration capabilities from the user point of viewe, and more homogenity could be more useful... I'm not sure that the semantics of outline, navigator, package, java browsing are very clear. What is your point of view about this? Best regards Xavier ps : I like very much your tool even if I make some comments on it ;-)
...continued... I would add a comment on my comment ; to sum up the previous email, I would compare the view semantics to one point of the Object Paradigm... Object model must be very coherent with loose coupling. If we apply this definition to Eclipse, you should have a window for each identified point. For instance, a window for debugging, and only for that; a window for browsing in normal mode; a window for browsing in hierarchical mode, a Window for ressources, and so on... For ergonomy, we could have actually one "real" window with display all the previous "virtual" windows in the left part of the real window (where you place the fast views and which is a great idea)for shortcut... Regards Xavier
...continued... I re-read what I wrote and I'm not sure that my english is very clear :-( and a bit confusing ... To sum up : * it could be nice to simplify (for the user point of view ; for the configurator point of view we could have a configuration IDE) the IDE * the user would only have to handle windows which could be place on the left in the fast view frame * no browser duplication * few kind of windows ; one for browsing code(current Java browser), one for browsing in hierarchical mode; one for debugging, one for repositories, and so on... * no possiblity to open views (only windows) Best regards Xavier
this is a comment about the Eclipse UI in general moving to Platform UI
This is a very interesting idea. However we do not have the time to implement this feature for 2.0. Consider doing this as a post 2.0 enhancement.
Hello, Sure you have a lot of work for this Eclipse version. It was just a contribution for a future version ;-) Regards Xavier
Reopen to investigate
Hello, I reread my prose I wrote 6 month ago when I was a beginner ;-) I faced then to beginners pbs like "how to move the views in the page? Why I can't open several perspective of the same type, and so on...". With many month of use, I could give now my feeling about that. Personnaly, I find the eclipse workbench very succeeded. The concept of views, editors, and so on is now clear for me. Maybe for a beginner it is not so easy, and a "quick tour" presentation in powerpoiunt or with viewlets could be welcome. What I would like to see changed should be the following ; I would really like to be able to open for instance many java browsing perspectives or others to be able to have sevral different contexts opened in the same workbench (not to be able to open a new workbench to do that). Up to now when I change a selection in a perspective of a workbench, the selection is also changed in the other perspectives of the same workbench... I understand why it is made so, but from a user point of view, it is not really useable. For instance, I would like , as mentionned previously, to have more specific perspectives to do such a things like that : when I select "references" of a selected item in an editor, the result is put into the search view in the same perspective. When I have the result, I click on an item in the result view ,and it updates the editor view in the same perspective, and I lose my previous selection. If I had a specific Search perpsective, when I want to have the "references" (or implementors, or everything else), it would open a new perspective in the same workbench, and every selection in the search view would only update the editor view of this perspective, not the other editors of the others perspectives in the same window. Is it clear :-( ? regards Xavier
There are currently no plans to work on this feature
