Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of Dependencies" when build

["Oberlies, Tobias" <tobias.oberlies@xxxxxxx>]

IMHO Tycho should not manipulate sources during the build. Therefore Tycho ignore the additional.bundles property (i.e. *not* add these bundles to the classpath), but instead require users of this features to press the button before they trigger a Tycho build.

Regards
Tobias


> -----Original Message-----
> From: tycho-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tycho-user-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko
> Sent: 01 August 2011 14:59
> To: tycho-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of Dependencies"
> when building with tycho?
> 
> <quote>
> So now, we can either click the analyze dependencies button in the AMD
> section of the editor... or we can simply launch our application and the
> dependencies will be automatically calculated.
> </quote>
> 
> So purely based on my development workflow using maven-bundle-plugin, I
> assume everyone lets PDE generate bundle manifest before launch and
> nobody commits updated manifests to version control systems ;-)
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Igor
> 
> On 11-08-01 4:47 PM, Sievers, Jan wrote:
> > hm. What I understood is that additional.bundles defines the flat list
> of Bundle-SymbolicName's (no version) which
> >
> > 1. will be added to the compile classpath
> > 2. can be used to manually compute dependencies with the PDE MANIFEST
> editor.
> >     You do this by clicking "Analyze code and add Dependencies" in the
> MANIFEST editor
> >     and it will add the Require-Bundle or Import-Package statements
> needed
> >
> > If this is true, tycho should just add the dependencies to latest
> version of all dependencies listed in additional.bundles to the compile
> classpath.
> > The user is responsible to make sure the MANIFEST has all dependencies
> for resolving at runtime.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tycho-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tycho-user-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko
> > Sent: Montag, 1. August 2011 13:59
> > To: tycho-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of Dependencies"
> when building with tycho?
> >
> > Unless I misunderstood how automatic dependency management works,
> > additional.bundles is only half of the puzzle. It tells the tooling what
> > bundles can be used to look for dependencies, but actual Import-Package
> > (or Require-Bundle) have to be calculated during the build by analyzing
> > bundle classes.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Igor
> >
> > On 11-08-01 3:51 PM, Sievers, Jan wrote:
> >> this has been discussed lately on this list:
> >> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tycho-user/msg00518.html
> >>
> >> support for additional.bundles in build.properties should not be too
> hard to add
> >> (similar to jars.extra.classpath), from my point of view we just don't
> have a compelling usecase for it
> >> since we don't use additional.bundles.
> >>
> >> That said, feel free to open a bug and provide a quality patch.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jan
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: tycho-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tycho-user-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of motes motes
> >> Sent: Montag, 1. August 2011 13:37
> >> To: Tycho user list
> >> Subject: Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of Dependencies"
> when building with tycho?
> >>
> >> Here you go:
> >>
> >> http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/05/29/pdes-automated-management-of-
> dependencies/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Igor Fedorenko<igor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>> Do you mind providing some links that explain what this feature does
> and
> >>> what underlying usecase(s) it solves?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Igor
> >>>
> >>> On 11-08-01 3:08 PM, motes motes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In an eclipse plugin its possible to specify dependencies using the
> >>>> Automated Management of Dependencies (AMD) which basically is the
> same
> >>>> as plain dependency management except that the dependencies are not
> >>>> written to the MANIFEST file. When building with PDE build this works
> >>>> fine but when building with tycho I often need to add some of the
> >>>> dependencies from the AMD either to imported packages or required or
> I
> >>>> get compilations errors (Access restriction ...)
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you guys avoid using AMD or are there plans for better support of
> >>>> AMD when building with tycho (currently I use 0.12.0)?
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