Re: [science-iwg] January - New Eclipse Project Proposal

[Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jay,

Thanks for raising your concerns, lets keep this discussion going.

Regarding the first concern, while the intention was to try to include
ICE data structures in the initial contribution, I simply have not had
the time I hoped to be able to review these. With DAWNSci structures
it took a reasonable amount of discussion as well as work on
dependencies, restructuring and to & fro with Peter to get them into
the current state. Conscious of the fact the project proposal
mechanics take time, I opted to go with this 'minimum viable product'
and schedule the integrations with ICE, EAVP and others after the
fact.

Likewise, with the second concern, again I have opted for the lean
approach and gone for the bare minimum number of developers.

I share your desire to get the community involved as much as possible.
In this case my approach is to start with getting a minimal feature
set out  and build up from there.

Thanks,
Jonah

~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders Ltd.
www.kichwacoders.com


On 26 January 2016 at 15:24, Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Jonah,
>
> This is great news! Awesome!
>
> My first concern is that during our previous discussion about this both at
> ECE, on the list, and during the SC call a couple of months ago we concluded
> that it was best to include ICE's data structures as part of the initial
> contribution. From the proposal it looks like you want to deliver an IC and
> then come back around to EAVP and ICE. I think that is the correct approach
> for EAVP, but I think ICE's data structures should be part of the IC. They
> are ready to go and can just be dropped in.
>
> My second concern is that the project has only two committers, you and
> Peter. I think there are other people in the group that would have
> justifiable roles in this (Matt, Baha, etc.) and it is better to list them
> now. If you list them now then they will not have to be elected later.
>
> Both of these concerns boil down to getting as much of the community
> involved as soon as possible. I think that is really important for all the
> science projects.
>
> I'll copy this into a comment on the proposal.
>
> Jay
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:25 AM, Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Peter and I are pleased to announce that the January project proposal
>> (https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/january) has now gone live.
>>
>> We are now soliciting community feedback so that we can progress the
>> proposal to the creation review.
>>
>> We have written a short blog post
>> (http://kichwacoders.com/2016/01/26/introducing-project-january/) with
>> some background on naming too.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Jonah
>>
>> ~~~
>> Jonah Graham
>> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
>> www.kichwacoders.com
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