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Re: [science-iwg] Fwd: [EarthScience] HDF WSSSPE2 Paper

Andrew,

Here's the proposal they are responding to. That might be something good for Science to try even if we can't partner with the HDFGroup on theirs.

http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2015/nsf15527/nsf15527.htm

Sent to the steering committee because they might have some interest and comments.

Jay

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Andrew,

Thanks!

Yes, I think it would be good if you gave her a call to see if we can partner with them, if they are interested, etc.

Jay

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Andrew Ross <andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In case I didn't say so earlier, congrats on the paper accepted Jay.

For the RCN, what's your sense... should I give Lindsay a call and encourage considering making Science WG a key part of that? The interests seem to be very well aligned.

Andrew


On 17/06/15 15:58, Jay Jay Billings wrote:
FYI.

Jay

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From: Ted Habermann <thabermann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [EarthScience] HDF WSSSPE2 Paper
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Hello WSSPE2 co-authors and friends of HDF,

Time flies when you are having fun and I hope that we all have been finding time for fun... not so easy for a group of super-busy people...

In this email that I sent out last fall I mentioned seeking funding for several meetings of the "HDF cognoscenti" with the goal of improving communication and sharing information and experience across the broad HDF Community. I am happy to say that Lindsay Powers has recently joined HDF and she is keenly interested in this idea. Fortunately, she is also being paid to help make it happen. Thus we have passed an important first step...

Lindsay posted a description of our plan recently on the forum (http://hdf-forum.184993.n3.nabble.com/Soliciting-interest-in-an-HDF-Research-Coordination-Network-td4027981.html) seeking potential partners. Several of you have already responded to her at lpowers@xxxxxxxxxxxx. I am hoping that a reminder might kindle a bit more interest. A solid list of initial partners will certainly increase our chances of success!

Thanks so much,
Ted

On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Ted Habermann <thabermann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello all,

I let you all know some time ago that the paper we put together for the second Workshop on Sustainable Software for Science: Practice and Experiences (WSSSPE2) workshop was accepted and wanted to thank those of you who sent in suggestions for responding to the reviewers. The length limit on the paper remained at a strict 4 pages, and there was not much room for cutting, so it was difficult to make a full response. After reading and thinking, I decided to focus a bit more on concrete actions in the last section of the paper. The revised version is still at http://figshare.com/articles/The_Hierarchical_Data_Format_HDF_A_Foundation_for_Sustainable_Data_and_Software/1112485.

The action oriented section of the paper proposes two steps:

The initial goal is a set of stories that go beyond technical details to build a clear picture of the Whole Product (Moore, 1991) that managers and decision-makers can understand and respond to. The goal of this effort is to create the information needed to make decision makers aware of the multi-disciplinary consensus that has already formed around HDF5. They need to know that their communities are not alone in their quest for interoperable data. In fact, there is a bandwagon that they can join.

The second step is more technical. We will create a repository of conventions that communities have implemented in HDF5 and tools that use those conventions to support interoperable data access. This repository will be designed to facilitate recognition of similarities and convergence towards multi-disciplinary best practices that will be integrated into a “conventions layer” in the HDF5 toolset. This layer will form a foundation for interoperable data sharing and understanding across disciplinary stovepipes, facilitate description of data in terms of “science data types” that are familiar to communities and scientists, and support the entire information life-cycle from data design to re-use to preservation.

As a third step in this direction, I hope to find support for several meetings of HDF cognoscenti with the goal of sharing these success stories and other ideas about solidifying the community into a foundation for sustainability. I like the model of “Convening” developed by the Rockefeller Foundation for these meetings… Thoughts / suggestions definitely welcome...

Obviously success in this adventure will be depend on input from this group and from others that we connect with. I have been re-reading Geoffrey Moore’s classic Crossing the Chasm and have been thinking of how the “Whole Product Model” fits into this plan. He makes a statement about partnerships that I think is really insightful: "Once formalized relationships are in place, use them as openings for communication only. Do not count on them to drive collaboration. Partnerships ultimately work only when specific individuals from the different companies choose to trust each other.”

Looking forward,
Ted

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