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Re: [iot-wg] Please review the new iot.eclipse.org website

Interesting discussion and I think it is something we should continue. 

However, I would like make sure people realize that most of this content is already on the existing iot.eclipse.org web site.  This is something we have already been doing.  I don't mind changing but I wanted to make sure people realize this is something the WG has discussed and agreed too.

Given that, I do think it is important the IoT WG and web site presents some type of cohesive story, more than just a listing of projects. This is similar to Thierry's comment. When we first started it was just a listing of projects and the potential users were getting lost.

We also had a meeting at EclipseCon where a subset of the WG began discussing an IoT platform. These discussions will certainly lead to some type of architecture. It is still very early days but I do think there is interest in the WG to have this type of discussion.

I do think Kai's point is valid that there are many diverse requirements and approaches. When I talk about about Eclipse IoT, I stress that we are set of building blocks and that needs to be an important part of the message. I don't believe anyone, including Eclipse IoT, will be able to define the 'one' architecture or solution for IoT. 

Again, thank you for the feedback and comments. This is exactly the discussion I would like to see in the WG.

Ian


On 27/03/2015 11:11 AM, Kai Kreuzer wrote:
I tend to agree with Julien on this.
I hear more and more (outside) people talking about „Eclipse IoT“ as a project / approach on its own, which obviously refers to the „Java IoT stack“ - but this is only a part of what Eclipse IoT is. We definitely should not aim at defining a common vision or architecture, because the needs out there are to diverse. Our strong point is that we simply offer many projects to choose from.
Besides this, I would rather count Eclipse SmartHome a framework for IoT gateways than an industry service.
So in summary, I would also vote for removing the frameworks page and rather concentrate on the infrastructure, the open collaboration model, the licenses and the IP policy.

Regards,
Kai


Am 27 Mar 2015 um 16:02 schrieb Julien Vermillard <jvermillard@xxxxxxxxx>:

The relation between the projects in open-source foundation are, usually, the infrastructure, the open collaboration model, the licenses, the IP policy which is already a lot (c.f. https://www.eclipse.org/org/).
But nothing on the architectural/technical. Maybe we can, but it would mean we need to find a consensus inside the IoT WG.

Julien

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 3:29 PM Thierry Monteil <monteil@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for this new website.

> Le 27 mars 2015 à 15:17, Julien Vermillard <jvermillard@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
> The new look is awesome! Can we copy it for project website? O:-)
>
> For the content, I would remove this page:
> http://198.27.66.207:8090/frameworks

I think it is important to help people to understand the relation between all the projets a good way is to
give a scheme even if it could be perfectible  so i will keep this page.

regards,

Thierry Monteil
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