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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [eclipse.org-planning-council] Neon.3 update problem status 
Hi Carsten,

Regarding “non-deterministic”: One thing I’ve observed earlier is, that once a bundle is
Wired that wiring tends to “stick” if there are multiple alternatives (ie there’s ambiguity).
So it might make a difference in what order you install / update your stuff.

In my use-case, I could reproduce a wiring problem when I installed bundles with 
Command-line p2 and launched Eclipse on the full install (which was ambiguous).
I could resolve the issue by installing only part of my bundles, launching Eclipse
(which caused bundles to be wired OK), and installed the rest afterwards.

I cannot explain this behavior, but perhaps this observation helps …

Thanks,
Martin
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Martin Oberhuber, SMTS / Product Owner – Development Tools, Wind River

On 09/05/17 11:45, "cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Carsten Reckord" <cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of reckord@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

    Hi Marcel,
    
    > did any of the three scenarios previously result in an error? In other
    > words: Was the problem reproducible for you and is that reproducible
    > situation now fixed?
    
    Good question. I was able to reproduce the issue when it first came up by installing the Docker Client into a vanilla Neon.3, and also by updating a Neon.2 that had it installed. So I actually didn't try this time around.
    
    As it turned out now that I did, I couldn't get the broken wiring to appear even with the current public Neon.3 version. Equinox now always wires both MPC and USS to the non-broken 4.3.6 version, whereas it did wire MPC to 4.5 before, causing the breakage. I guess there's some non-deterministic element in what's going on in bug 514149[1]? Otherwise I'm not sure what might be different...
    
    At any rate, installations based on the new Neon.3a candidate are looking good from MPC's perspective.
    
    Best,
    Carsten
    
    [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=514149
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