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Re: [wtp-incubator-dev] Begging of The End?

 Konstantin,

Actually, I'm going to back Holger on this precisely because the bug was not created.

Yes, the WTP Incubator was created for the reasons you mention, but it has always been the policy that

1. A bug report should be opened, and the code attached to it for review and comment.

2. That their be a proposal made for the WTP Incubator project (this was done correctly).

All of the other incubator projects had to go through this process. Including wst.xsl which was the first incubator project. The bug report in step one gives the community even more visibility into the creation of what is happening, how things are potentially going to be setup (i.e. whether git or cvs is going to be the repo, as all current
incubator projects use git), how the system will be built, etc.

All important things to discuss so that the existing committers can make an informed decision.

The process helps bring some checks and balances. This will be slight bump, in the process, but I think it is important that any incubator component, have to follow all the steps and trials that the other components had to go through as well
regardless of who is submitting the request or the code for incubation.

Dave

On 08/26/2010 07:41 AM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
Holger,

I am not sure why you've started this crusade, but it is clear to me that
you've managed to miss the entire point of the WTP incubator. It exists
precisely to have no entry barriers. It supposed to encourage people with
new ideas and half-finished projects in WTP space to come work on them in
the open and gain experience of being a committer safely away from
production code.

EDP does not account for persistent incubator projects. They are technically
not allowed, because they don't have a well defined scope and never mature.
Persistent incubators have sprung up as a grass roots idea using social
norms rather than EDP as the guiding principle. EMO has largely looked the
other way, because they work so well.

WTP incubator has been pretty active (although it has yet to produce much
that is merged upstream). Let's not kill the spark that makes it work. Your
defense of the process is misplaced in this project.

- Konstantin

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