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Hi, there has been various discussion over the years on this topic. There was even a full implementation ready: see bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=118200 which adds search controls in the search result UI. We decided against that proposal in the very last seconds (it was available in a milestone) for various reasons: - Consistency amongst all the contributed search result view. Say: Text search has a search field in the result view, but Java and PDE don't. For Java search a simple input field is not enough as there are several options to be supported and users also rarely enter a search string. - Search input field takes space away from search result view However, as a result from that work we added more APIs so that it's possible for search result contributors to contribute result views that for example are initially shown, not only after the first search. WindRiver has a product with their own text search view based on this. The second proposal discussed was a search field in the trim. This is, IMO a good idea. We just never had the resources to go in that direction. Martin Aeschlimann Platform Search Committer and former Platform/Search lead. The current search lead is Daniel Megert. We encourage you to file bug with the ideas. (I actually think this would have the best way to start the discussion right away, as not everybody is part of the ui-best-practices-working-group) |------------> | From: | |------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Raev, Kaloyan" <kaloyan.raev@xxxxxxx> | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | To: | |------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"User Interface Architecture Working Group" <ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx> | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Date: | |------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |10.07.2008 16:27 | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Subject: | |------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |RE: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Reminder: Conference Call: Wednesday, July 9th, 17:00 UTC or 10:00 PDT. Call 613.287.8000 or | |866.362.7064 passcode 892048# | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Hello, Here are my notes from the yesterday's call. Bogdan Vatkov made a quick walk-through on the pain points in the current Search UI in Eclipse. The main point is that defining search criteria and looking at search results are tightly connected tasks. Therefore, it is quite natural to have them in one and the same view. See the attached slides for details. Kevin McGuire presented a concept that is very close to Bogdan's proposal. He mentioned that there are dev resources needed to realize this experimental search form - may be the interested parties in the community can help? The Platform team is open on making changes. There were people on the call that were in favor with the proposed new search concept and others that like the existing one. Therefore, the following was concluded: - There should be simple and advanced search modes in one and the same view. User make the choice for the mode. - Eclipse could provide Search UI for both old and new concepts and not sacrificing any of them. Action items: - Start with a Bugzilla bug to collect our initial resources from this walk-through - documents, notes, etc. (Bogdan and Kaloyan) - Bogdan Vatkov will send the presentation slides. (done with this mail) - Kevin will send a document describing his new experimental search form. - Follow-up call in few weeks - there will be more people coming back from vacation. Until then discussions continue in the mailing list and Bugzilla. Greetings, Kaloyan From: ui-best-practices-working-group-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:ui-best-practices-working-group-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Fraser Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:02 PM To: User Interface Architecture Working Group Subject: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Reminder: Conference Call: Wednesday, July 9th, 17:00 UTC or 10:00 PDT. Call 613.287.8000 or 866.362.7064 passcode 892048# Conference Call: Wednesday, July 9th, 17:00 UTC or 10:00 PDT. Call 613.287.8000 or 866.362.7064 passcode 892048# Agenda: Search UI pain points walkthrough (Bogdan Vatkov) - Bob(See attached file: Search_UI_Walkthough.ppt) _______________________________________________ ui-best-practices-working-group mailing list ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ui-best-practices-working-group
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