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Re: [technology-pmc] Subject: ESE 2010: 1701 - Introduction to Sapphire has been declined

I agree that one the problems is the number of slots. In my opinion, more 25-minute slots with higher number of smaller rooms would make for a better conference.

 

Regarding commenting on proposals, I think it is the duty of the program committee to be as open as possible in the selection process. Commenting on a proposal takes only a few minutes. A few hundred submissions is not too many to comment on individually.

 

- Konstantin

 

 

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Subject: Re: [technology-pmc] Subject: ESE 2010: 1701 - Introduction to Sapphire has been declined

 

Wayne, Konstantin,

 

I tried to answer your questions at a blog post I’ve written which you’ve seen I guess.

 

It is not that only long talks are short in supply, slots in general are very limited. I can understand that new projects proposals need some attention, however with the space available we cannot even cover all new projects and the existing projects in depth.

 

With the time and the resources available it is simply not feasible to have a detailed description for each and every talk why that specific one was or wasn’t selected. In the end the PC has to make a decision on the information available (abstract, project status, …) as well as some feeling how well accepted a talk will be by the attendees. The first part is easy (as it is based on facts) whereas the second part is pretty though and obviously reflects the opinions of the people involved.

 

I think in that special case it is just too early (project is still in pre-project phase) to justify a short or even a long talk (given that we are very limited on those anyway…)

 

Bernd

 

 

 

> I'm not sure what to say. Long talk slots are in short supply. The PC

> has to balance the opposing forces of providing "known winner" talk

> topics that attract the crowds with talks about great new technology

> that people need to learn about. It's not an easy job.

> 

> I was not involved with the programme committee this year, so I don't

> know why your talk was not selected. I am a little disappointed that

> there are no comments on the proposal to give any indication of why it

> was not selected.

> 

> I'll see what I can do to influence the EclipseCon and ESE 2011 PCs to

> give some priority to short talks about new projects.

> 

> Wayne

> 

> > Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:

> > Not to sound like sour grapes and all, but we have a problem when new

> > projects are not able to get space at the conference to drive community

> > awareness, etc. Is the conference not allocating sufficient time for general

> > content?

> >

> > - Konstantin

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: ese2010 on behalf of summit [mailto:summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:24 AM

> > To: konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx

> > Subject: ESE 2010: 1701 - Introduction to Sapphire has been declined

> >

> > Dear Konstantin Komissarchik,

> >         

> > Thank you for your Eclipse Summit Europe 2010 proposal

> > "Introduction to Sapphire." 

> >

> > We received many more proposals than we have space for, and thus

> > have been forced to decline many quality submissions. Unfortunately,

> > and with our apologies, your proposal is one of those we had to leave out.

> >

> > There are still plenty of opportunities for you to participate at

> > Eclipse Summit Europe 2010, including BOFs and posters.

> > Poster submissions open on September 13. BOFs will be organized on site.

> >

> > We look forward to seeing you at Eclipse Summit Europe 2010, and we

> > urge you to register early to take advantage of the lowest price.

> >

> > You may register for the conference here:

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> > An automated email on behalf of

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