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Re: [technology-pmc] New bugzilla component for JWT

Hi Florian.

You do not need PMC approval to create a new Bugzilla component, so go for it.

Wayne

Florian Lautenbacher wrote:
Hi Technology PMC,

I would like to inform you that we, the JWT project, would like to structure
our project into another component ("Runtime") that we use on Bugzilla as
well as for the structure of CVS.
Similar to the last discussion (about Transformations, see discussion
below), this won't be an official Eclipse component, but something that will
help us to structure our work.
Last time you said that the PMC does not need to approve something like a
Bugzilla component, but I wanted to tell you nevertheless.

If there are any objections or something that I might have forgotten, please
just let me know.

Thanks and best regards,

Florian

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:35:36 +0100
From: "Florian Lautenbacher"
	<florian.lautenbacher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [technology-pmc] AW: New component for JWT project
To: <technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>,	"'Java Workflow Toolbox'"
	<jwt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <003301c93f32$3d7e4590$7b28fa89@CRUX>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Hi Wayne,

I'm unsure whether it is a *new* component that needs approval. In the
project proposal we said we'll have three components at the beginning:
-WE, the workflow editor
-WAM, the workflow administration and monitoring tools -Desktop, a tool in
order to preview a workflow model without using a process engine

We were mostly working on the workflow editor and on runtime dependent
things (connection with a workflow engine, monitoring, etc.), but quickly
got to know that without transformations to other formats and editors in
Eclipse, not many people will use our tools. That's why we started with the
first transformations already a while ago in order to be able to got
connected with BPMN, generate code in XPDL (and BPEL - under development)
and transform the model into the STP-IM.
These transformations have already been part of our last release (0.5.0)
which was approved by PMC. The transformations have already been announced
in the slides for release 0.4.0. So I thought, if the release has been
approved, then the transformations themselves, of course, have been
approved, too. On our CVS they already reside in their own directory
org.eclipse.jwt.transformations. The only thing that was missing was the
bugzilla component for an easier handling for future requests.
Concerning this information, will we now need PMC approval and if yes, would
you approve this *new* component?

Thanks in advance for your support and best regards,

Florian

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Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:08:17 -0500
From: Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [technology-pmc] New component for JWT project
To: Technology PMC <technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <49108F91.1090503@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

You don't need approval from the PMC to create a new Bugzilla component.

However, you do need PMC approval to create a new project
component/sub-project. Is what you're doing going to result in a new
component as defined in section 4 of the development process document[1] ?

Wayne

[1]http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:46:59 -0500
From: Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [technology-pmc] AW: New component for JWT project
To: Technology PMC <technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4911B1E3.5000402@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Florian. I just took a quick peek at the Foundation database, and it
seems that JWT has *no* components in the Eclipse Development Process sense
of the word. I don't think this is a problem; the main reason that you'd
want to formalize the notion of a component is have a degree of control over
them (e.g. you can't set up a component's CVS structure to be writable by
only a subset of the project's committers, have separate releases, IP
records, etc.).  Bjorn may have more to add on this point.

In terms of just creating a Bugzilla "component", go for it.

Wayne

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