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Re: [swordfish-dev] Integrating / evaluating servicemix

Hi Guillaume,

On the service mix home page http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html it says that "ServiceMix uses ActiveMQ to provide remoting, clustering, reliability and distributed failover." Also, JMS is listed as a platform component in the servicemix 4 architecture plan (http://servicemix.apache.org/SMX4/architecture-plan.html).

If ServiceMix does not depend upon ActiveMQ, then are the features mentioned above not available in configurations of servicemix that do not include ActiveMQ?...or are they provided by something else (e.g. some other JMS provider), or?

If there is a description of the dependencies (i.e. among various libs that make up service mix) that would probably be most helpful.

Scott


Guillaume Nodet wrote:
FWIW, ServiceMix does not depend on ActiveMQ, though it nicely
integrate with ...
The previous ServiceMix version (3.x) had some features which were
dependant on ActiveMQ, but those features were optional anyway.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 19:04, Scott Lewis<slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Swordfishers,

I'm Scott Lewis, the project lead for ECF http://www.eclipse.org/ecf.  As
you may have noticed, ECF is doing quite a lot with distributed OSGi these
days (e.g. http://www.eclipse.org/ecf/NewAndNoteworthy.html), and we have
plans to do much more along these lines.

We have a provider architecture, that allows various underlying messaging
frameworks to be used to provide discovery, distribution, messaging, and
remoting  (e.g. see
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Distributed_OSGi_Services_with_ECF).
We also have a provider based upon ActiveMQ 5.2.0 that is currently *not*
hosted at eclipse.org...primarily because we have not yet submitted/had
approved CQs for ActiveMQ 5.2.0, JMS spec (of appropriate version), and all
dependencies for ActiveMQ.  But this provider is working and available via
our CVS server at the OSU Open Source Lab.

This brings me to my question to you:  I've noticed the recent submission of
CQs for servicemix for Swordfish, and have read that servicemix depends upon
ActiveMQ, but would like clarification from you:  what is the relationship
(in CQ terms) between ActiveMQ and servicemix?  That is:  is there already
approved CQs for ActiveMQ 5.2?  If not, will the servicemix CQs you've
submitted imply separate/additional CQs for ActiveMQ itself?  As we would
like to *only* use ActiveMQ in ECF (and not the other parts of servicemix),
if we need to submit CQs for ActiveMQ separately we will...but we would
obviously ride on existing/approved CQs if we can...or submit new CQs in
cooperation with you and/or other projects that could benefit from
availability of ActiveMQ (e.g. via the Orbit project).

Thanksinadvance for any info,

Scott



Chris Jölly wrote:
Hello all,


I have some questions regarding the efforts needed to integrate swordfish

into an application and how much time is needed to get the first results

when e.g. connecting swordfish via web services to an SOAP adapter of

an SAP XI system.


What I want to do is to evaluate some of this integration platforms and

compare  each other. Sure, this efforts depends on the skills of the
developers

and the concrete use cases, but someone who uses swordfish could possible

give a rough figure for this efforts which is sufficient for my needs by
now. J


And, maybe someone has evaluated other tools like ServiceMix or Mule and

has figures for these platforms too?


thanks, Chris


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