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Re: [stp-dev] Re: Follow on meeting about the Hybrid Model

Hi guys,

I'll be updating the wiki page on the model today with a more detailed description and will also add the details and example that Andrea presented.

Cheers,
Adrian.
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On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Adrian Skehill wrote:

Andrea, thanks for this, would it be possible to get it recorded onto the wiki as well to ensure it's more permanent?

Guillaume, would you like to schedule a follow on discussion on this for next week?

Regards,
Adrian Skehill.



I have a few questions wrt to the meta model described at

The model defines the notion of service, binding and endpoint, but the
comments below do not put any definition behind these concepts ? Do
they have the same meaning than in WSDL ? If yes, where is the
Interface ? In which case would a service have more than one endpoint
?

  

This model aims to define both:
1) the concept of service in very similar way as  it's in the webservices world so this is
the reason for the presence of Service, ServiceBinding and Enpoint entities.
2) The concept of Process as a set of steps and transitions, each steps use a services with
   a particular binding.
     When you're using the model to define business process you really don't care about the
   services you just need to use in your step.
   Makin a very simple example suppose you have a business process defined in terms of
   three step.
   - Take Input -> Make Some Business Transformation -> Make Data Persistent -> Get Output
   this could be mapped to the service in:
   - TakeInput ( InputService) -> MakeSomeBusinessTransformation ( BusinessService ) -> MakeDataPersistent( BusinessService) -> GetOuptut( OutputService)
   In that way you've a process with four step and two of that are reusing the BusinessService.
    Then you coul put there the binding so you could have
   - TakeInput( InputService, JBIHttpInputBinding )
   ->MakeSomeBusinessTransformation ( BusinessService, JBI-XSLT-ServiceEngineBinding )
   ->MakeDataPersistent( BusinessService, JBI-JDBC-ServiceEngineBinding )
   ->GetOuptut(OutputService, JBIHttpOutputComponent)
   But the "same business process" could have different "technological details" changing the binding association in the step instances so the same process could
   result in:
   - TakeInput( InputService, JBIJmsInputBinding )
   ->MakeSomeBusinessTransformation ( BusinessService, JBI-XSLT-ServiceEngineBinding )
   ->MakeDataPersistent( BusinessService, JBI-JDBC-ServiceEngineBinding )
   ->GetOuptut(OutputService, JBIJmsOutputBinding)

 


Also I don't really see why a process step would be linked to a
binding ? It seems to me it should be linked to an Interface or an
Endpoint (if we want the physical location)...

  

The physical location URI and other details are expresses as properties of the steps.
Ideas ?

  


When you've process, modelled as step with binding and properties, the aim is to get something
that coul deployed in a JBI or SCA runtime.
At the moment i'm working to model a very simple process with two purpose:
1) To get a generator that will give me a deployables service assembly for servicemix runtime, starting from that model.
   By the result will be that ecah step will be mapped to a particular jbi endpoint ( as we mean in jbi world ).
2) To extends the eclipse bpmn modeler to work with that model. ( a very basic idea could be to have each bpmn
   element mapped to a service but it's just an idea )
By the way this is an intermediate model, and you need to get other configuration files to get the generators
work. This is because each technology has it's details that cannot be all included in the intermediate
model.
Please let me know if you've other doubt.
Andrea Zopppello
Engineering Ing. Informatica


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