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Re: [rt-pmc] Jetty 10 Release Review

On 2020-02-27 11:16 a.m., Thomas Watson wrote:
OK, so it sounds like there can be no clarification on the Jakarta version which the Servlet version Jetty supports is included in?  That sounds horrible.

My apologies. I have read your first sentence three times and I cannot parse what you're saying. Could you please try rephrasing?

The release review record already says that Jetty 10.0 will provide "Jakarta Servlet 4.0 Support". I am not sure what more or else you are expecting?


Tom
 
 
 
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Date: Thu, Feb 27, 2020 9:59 AM
 
Joakim,
 
The Eclipse Foundation agrees with your assessment. You should only make compatibility claims based on passing the relevant TCKs. It is clear that Jetty is not a fully compliant Jakarta EE Full or Web Profile implementation. I would certainly hope that you would consider working towards passing the Servlet TCK.
 
On 2020-02-27 10:40 a.m., Joakim Erdfelt wrote:
We have to be careful about what Eclipse Jetty is compliant with.
 
Example, Eclipse Jetty cannot legally say "Eclipse Jetty supports Jakarta EE 8", as it is not using 95% of the required EE components.
 
Eclipse Jetty is also not a Jakarta EE compliant implementation.
Eclipse Jetty is using a subset of Jakarta EE.
 
It's more appropriate to say something along the lines of being Jakarta Servlet 4.0 compliant, but that also requires a validation before Eclipse Jetty is allowed to say that.
 
I doubt Eclipse Jetty is even allowed to say that it is a "Jakarta Web Profile" implementation, as it also doesn't ship with the various required components.
 
Joakim Erdfelt / joakim@xxxxxxxxxxx
 
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 8:56 AM Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks
 
+1 from me, but I still recommend updating the release record to state the Jakarta EE platform version supported.

Tom
 
 
 
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Date: Thu, Feb 27, 2020 8:49 AM
 
Right, Jetty 11 is likely to follow on the heels quickly with the renamed package support and remain feature equivalent with Jetty 10.
 
Jesse
 
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On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 8:46 AM Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Question about the release.  It says "Jakarta Servlet 4.0 Support".  I assume this is the Servlet version from Jakarta EE 8 and we still look forward to a Jetty release that supports the future Jakarta EE 9 package name changes for javax.servlet.  But as of now, the Jetty 10 release still supports the javax.servlet packages.
 
Correct?  If so I would simply update the release record to indicate the Jakarta EE version that you support.  It may make it more clear, at least to me.
 

Tom
 
 
 
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Date: Thu, Feb 20, 2020 12:58 PM
 
 
We are requesting approval for the review material for the forthcoming Jetty 10.0 release.
 
 
cheers,
Jesse


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