I just want to forewarn the PMC that there is an ongoing vote in
rt.equinox.framework to add two new committers for maintaining and
enhancing the native launcher. Both committers: Bogdan Gheorghe and
Silenio Quarti are from the eclipse SWT team. The SWT team originally
owned the native launcher before it was moved into the equinox.framework
project years ago. Both committers are familiar with the code and have had
historical knowledge and ownership of the code before it was in the
equinox.framework project. The call for vote initiated by Andrew Niefer
does not list bugs that show contributions by the nominees, but please rest
assured that both committers have been involved in the launcher code in the
past and they are very good candidates for picking up the necessary work
needed to maintain and enhance the native launcher in equinox.
Please let me know if you have any concerns or questions.
Tom
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Hi Christian
On 28 Mar 2012, at 14:23, Campo, Christian wrote:
hi,
here is a list of bugs that Jordan sent me with fixes that he
submitted for existing bugs
374184
301682
374928
374930
299753
he also investigated a bug that he couldnt find a solution….
299754
Thanks. I'm now happy to approve Jordan with this information to hand.
Maybe you can still point me to a page at
eclipse.org that makes a
list of bugs and/or patched a mandatory content for a proposal for
new committer. I dont think that was ever talked about or that it is
something the Eclipse foundation demands.
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=rt.riena should do the
trick, but the patches need their IP log flags set, which they seem to be
missing. I was tempted to add the flags, but thought I should leave that to
you guys.
Looking at past proposals for Virgo (i.e. Florian Waibel) you also
did not include a list of bugzilla entries where Florian added
patches. I am not saying that he shouldnt be a committer but you are
raising the bar to a higher level and I would have expected that this
is something that you do all the time.
Guilty as charged. That may be the case where I was picked up (albeit via
email rather than veto!). I have tried to do better since then, e.g. in
Miles Parker's nomination where I gave a bunch of commit SHAs.
I saw that included a bug list a number of times for new committers
but not always…..
I am pretty sure that the webmaster can not remove a veto but lets
see what they have to say…..
No reply yet.
christian
p.s. Veto is your right so dont get me wrong, but it should not be
execute lightly and I believe it demands communication about your
concerns before you execute it. i think it happens like once a year
in all of
Eclipse.org.
Believe me, I would not have vetoed if I had had any inkling that it was
not reversible. Please accept my apologies for causing you undue hassle and
potentially the trouble/delay of re-running the vote.
Regards,
Glyn
Von: Glyn Normington <
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Datum: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:04:09 +0200
An: Runtime Project PMC mailing list <
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Betreff: Re: [rt-pmc] Committer vote for Jordan Dukadinov has been
vetoed by the PMC
Hi Christian
Yeah, perhaps. But first let me explain my thought process, just so
you don't think I acted lightly. I saw the nomination and was just
about to vote +1, thinking "yeah, more committers are a good thing
for any project" when I realised that the nomination was missing
patch information. I've been picked up for not providing sufficient
detail in nominations before and I respected it and think I
benefitted. So my next thought was to leave the nomination pending.
Given the apparent finality of the veto, I wish I had done that. But
I also wanted to make sure the some other well-meaning PMC member
didn't slip into approving the vote like I nearly did. I assumed,
wrongly, that it would be easy to reverse the veto if the nomination
turned out to be incomplete. In retrospect, it would have been more
productive for me to email my inclination to veto to this mailing
list.
So, may I suggest that you post the bugs with patches here (for the
record) while I email the web master and see if the veto can be
removed? I will then vote +1 with the patch information you supply.
Regards,
Glyn
On 28 Mar 2012, at 11:50, Campo, Christian wrote:
hi glyn,
wouldnt it have helped if you mailed me before you made that
decision ? As far I can see that veto is a final decision and I
dont see the vote for committer in my portal. So to get Jordan
in (in case you change your mind) would mean to start a new
voting…… (which I am hesitant to do)
christian
Von: Glyn Normington <
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Datum: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:41:07 +0200
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Betreff: Re: [rt-pmc] Committer vote for Jordan Dukadinov has
been vetoed by the PMC
Hi Christian
No, I didn't look because the information provided gave me the
impression that Jordan had only raised bugs and not solved any.
It would have really helped if the nomination had listed the
bugs with patches in the proposal.
Please could you attach that information to the nomination and
then we can hopefully get it approved ASAP, portal permitting.
Regards,
Glyn
On 28 Mar 2012, at 11:37, Campo, Christian wrote:
hi glyn,
I agree that this come over a little harsh. Did you look
for Jordan's
patches for Riena ? I mean like in query the bugzilla
database and couldnt
find any ?
He did supply a number of patches for Riena bugs. Its
just that I didnt
list them in the proposal.
a wellŠ..
christian
Am 28.03.12 03:55 schrieb "portal on behalf of Glyn
Normington" unter
<
gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx>:
rt PMC Members,
This automatically generated message marks the
PMC's veto of the vote for
Jordan Dukadinov's full Committer status on the
rt.riena project.
The PMC's comments were: One of the roles of PMC
members is to ensure that
Eclipse projects are run as a meritocracy. The
rules for committer
election
state the nomination should "Cite the bugs [the
proposed committer has]
fixed via patches". So, although I'm sure Jordan is
a great guy, I can
only
veto this election until he has fixed a few bugs
which can be cited of
evidence of (a) his merit and (b) the need to make
him a committer (since
if he doesn't write code, he can continue as a
contributor).
Sorry if this seems a bit harsh. I did hesitate
before vetoing. But I hope
everyone will agree that we need to avoid slipping
our standards at
Eclipse.
Jordan: please plough in and submit patches for 3-4
bugs and the PMC will
then be able to approve.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact your project
lead, PMC member, or the EMO <
emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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