Re: [rt-pmc] Gemini subproject situation

[michael keith <michael.keith@xxxxxxxxxx>]

No, I don't believe there have been any changes since the M1 milestone. 
The point is that users have asked for a full-fledged "release". (If 
milestones were sufficient then I wouldn't have needed to bring this up 
in the PMC at all :-)

On 17/01/2012 6:10 PM, Jesse McConnell wrote:
> as there must have been development after the M1 release, what about
> making a 1.0.0.M2 released version and then just indicate that it is
> eol and not being maintained any longer
>
> seems the easiest thing to do osgi wise
>
> jesse
>
> --
> jesse mcconnell
> jesse.mcconnell@xxxxxxxxx
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>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 16:36, Thomas Watson<tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > I'm not in favor of releasing anything from incubation unless it is mature
> > and has plans to be maintained and evolve in the future.  My vote would be
> > 2).  My rational is that you have not really ever made a real release of
> > this stuff so it is fine to degrade the version to 0.9.
> >
> > Unless I am mistaken it sounds like very few, if any, would be effected by
> > degrading the version of this bundle when you make the first release as an
> > incubation project.  Am I missing something?  Do others in the community
> > view the 1.0.0 M1 contents as a released version of the Gemini Naming
> > project?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
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> >   |michael keith<michael.keith@xxxxxxxxxx>                                                                                                            |
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> >   |Runtime Project PMC mailing list<rt-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>,                                                                                            |
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> >   |01/17/2012 04:10 PM                                                                                                                               |
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> >   |[rt-pmc] Gemini subproject situation                                                                                                              |
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> >
> > We have a question in the Gemini project that we would like to ask the
> > PMC to weigh in on.
> >
> > The Gemini Naming project was a Gemini subproject that was never
> > intended to be maintained much, but that some people find useful. It is
> > the implementation of the OSGi JNDI spec that might not ever be updated
> > because there will likely not be a need. Bob Nettleton from Oracle wrote
> > and led the project until about a year ago when he was no longer able to
> > be involved. He made a 1.0.0 M1 milestone available. The project never
> > left incubation when most of the other Gemini subprojects did.
> >
> > We have had some people ask for a release and one suggestion was that we
> > put out a 0.9 release and leave the project in incubation. However,
> > since a 1.0.0 M1 milestone was already made available it would seem like
> > the wrong choice to put out a lower 0.9 release at this stage. I always
> > figured that projects should not release a 1.0 while in incubation, but
> > the alternative is to graduate the project, release a 1.0, and
> > effectively not do any development on it. It should be released, but
> > which of these options, or some alternative option, do people think
> > would be the best course of action?
> >
> > 1) Bring the project to graduation (even though there may not be much
> > development on it after that point) and release a 1.0
> >
> > 2) Leave the project in incubation and put out a 0.9 release, even
> > though a 1.0 M1 is already available
> >
> > 3) Leave the project in incubation and put out a 1.0 release
> >
> > Whatever choice is the right one would be fine, we just don't know what
> > that is.
> > My vote would probably be for (1), but as the Gemini project lead I am
> > somewhat interest-conflicted :-).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Mike
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