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Re: [rt-pmc] Gemini subproject situation

Seems reasonable to me.

But let's avoid using the R-word when talking about milestones. ;-)

Regards,
Glyn

On 17 Jan 2012, at 23:10, Jesse McConnell wrote:

> as there must have been development after the M1 release, what about
> making a 1.0.0.M2 released version and then just indicate that it is
> eol and not being maintained any longer
> 
> seems the easiest thing to do osgi wise
> 
> jesse
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> jesse mcconnell
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> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 16:36, Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I'm not in favor of releasing anything from incubation unless it is mature
>> and has plans to be maintained and evolve in the future.  My vote would be
>> 2).  My rational is that you have not really ever made a real release of
>> this stuff so it is fine to degrade the version to 0.9.
>> 
>> Unless I am mistaken it sounds like very few, if any, would be effected by
>> degrading the version of this bundle when you make the first release as an
>> incubation project.  Am I missing something?  Do others in the community
>> view the 1.0.0 M1 contents as a released version of the Gemini Naming
>> project?
>> 
>> Tom
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>>  |michael keith <michael.keith@xxxxxxxxxx>                                                                                                          |
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>>  |Runtime Project PMC mailing list <rt-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>,                                                                                            |
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>>  |01/17/2012 04:10 PM                                                                                                                               |
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>>  |[rt-pmc] Gemini subproject situation                                                                                                              |
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>> 
>> We have a question in the Gemini project that we would like to ask the
>> PMC to weigh in on.
>> 
>> The Gemini Naming project was a Gemini subproject that was never
>> intended to be maintained much, but that some people find useful. It is
>> the implementation of the OSGi JNDI spec that might not ever be updated
>> because there will likely not be a need. Bob Nettleton from Oracle wrote
>> and led the project until about a year ago when he was no longer able to
>> be involved. He made a 1.0.0 M1 milestone available. The project never
>> left incubation when most of the other Gemini subprojects did.
>> 
>> We have had some people ask for a release and one suggestion was that we
>> put out a 0.9 release and leave the project in incubation. However,
>> since a 1.0.0 M1 milestone was already made available it would seem like
>> the wrong choice to put out a lower 0.9 release at this stage. I always
>> figured that projects should not release a 1.0 while in incubation, but
>> the alternative is to graduate the project, release a 1.0, and
>> effectively not do any development on it. It should be released, but
>> which of these options, or some alternative option, do people think
>> would be the best course of action?
>> 
>> 1) Bring the project to graduation (even though there may not be much
>> development on it after that point) and release a 1.0
>> 
>> 2) Leave the project in incubation and put out a 0.9 release, even
>> though a 1.0 M1 is already available
>> 
>> 3) Leave the project in incubation and put out a 1.0 release
>> 
>> Whatever choice is the right one would be fine, we just don't know what
>> that is.
>> My vote would probably be for (1), but as the Gemini project lead I am
>> somewhat interest-conflicted :-).
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Mike
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