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Re: [rt-pmc] Fwd: Future of ScalaModules
Christian, Jeff, Glyn,

Thanks for your attention.

There are special rules for an Eclipse project that require significant efforts. There was too little interest in ScalaModules to justify continuing these efforts.

The project will be continued outside of Eclipse as before. Release version 2.0 (delayed due to delayed release of Scala 2.8) is feature complete and will soon be "there" for anyone interested. We won't spend any significant efforts unless there is a good case.

Thank you,

Heiko

On 20 July 2010 15:39, Glyn Normington <gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree it seems rather premature to kill the project: 6 months is nothing for building a viable community. Perhaps it's one way to find out if potential or existing users really care. At this point they ought to come out of the woodwork and plead for ScalaModules to be spared.

Glyn
On 20 Jul 2010, at 14:30, Jeff McAffer wrote:

I too am bummed by this.  Scala and OSGi are both, independently, interesting technologies.  Together they seem to make quite a bit of sense. Some of our commercial partners have been pleased to hear that ScalaModules exists.  My impression from the start of this project was that it was a "no brainer" with good code, existing adopters, and an aggressive schedule. So, like Wayne, I wonder if it is too soon to be terminating.  What will happen to the code and existing users? Will the project continue to be worked on outside Eclipse?

In a retrospective kind of way, it would be interesting to get your review of the issues and topics that came up for you at Eclipse so we can improve where appropriate.

Jeff


On 2010-07-19, at 4:22 AM, Heiko Seeberger wrote:

Hi,

I decided to terminate the ScalaModules project. Please find the termination review slides attached.

Thank you,

Heiko


On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Well... if we're going to do this right, we're supposed to do a Termination Review [1]. Let me know if you want some help putting the slides together.

Also, can you please inform your PMC of your decision?

Thanks,

Wayne

[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/HOWTO/Review_Information_for_Project_Leads#Termination_.28Archive.29_Reviews

Heiko Seeberger wrote:
Hi Wayne,

Thanks for trying, but we started this process in December 2009. That's more than half a year now, which I consider too long. My point of view is: If ScalaModules was a brilliant idea, folks would have jumped upon the train. There is no (business) use case for me to invest even more time into promoting a "rather good" idea.

Heiko

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:

  It seems pretty early in the process to give up. Can I talk you
  into sticking with it a little longer? Perhaps we can drum up some
  interest at Eclipse Summit...

  Wayne

  Heiko Seeberger wrote:

      Wayne, Chris,

      Although ScalaModules has been in incubation for quite a while
      now, we did not manage to attract significant interest from
      possible contributors or users. While lots of folks seem to
      like the fancy idea of combining two "cool" technologies it
      looks like there is no common use case for ScalaModules.

      After talking to the other committers (Roman and Kjetil) I
      decided to stop/withdraw ScalaModules from Eclipse. If I
      understand the Eclipse rules correctly, this would happen
      sooner or later anyway for projects with
      low-level-interest/participation. Anyway, I think that now is
      the time to make that decision.

      Thanks a lot for your help and guidance on the way so long!
      Could you please assist me one last time with this project?
      What are the required steps to take?

      Best Regards,

      Heiko
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Managing Director Technology

Weigle Wilczek GmbH
Martinstraße 42-44
73728 Esslingen
Deutschland

T (+49) 711 4599980
F (+49) 711 45999829
www.weiglewilczek.com<http://www.weiglewilczek.com/> <http://www.weiglewilczek.com<http://www.weiglewilczek.com/>>

Geschäftsführer / Managing Directors: Dr. Stephan Wilczek, Heiko Seeberger
Sitz der Gesellschaft / Domicile: Esslingen a. N.
Amtsgericht / Register Court: Stuttgart, HRB 214442
USt-Ident.-Nr. / VAT ID: DE 213 472 880

--
Wayne Beaton, The Eclipse Foundation
http://www.eclipse.org<http://www.eclipse.org/>
--
Join me at Eclipse Summit Europe 2010!
http://eclipsesummit.org/




--
Heiko Seeberger
Managing Director Technology

Weigle Wilczek GmbH
Martinstraße 42-44
73728 Esslingen
Deutschland

T (+49) 711 4599980
F (+49) 711 45999829
www.weiglewilczek.com<http://www.weiglewilczek.com/>

Geschäftsführer / Managing Directors: Dr. Stephan Wilczek, Heiko Seeberger
Sitz der Gesellschaft / Domicile: Esslingen a. N.
Amtsgericht / Register Court: Stuttgart, HRB 214442
USt-Ident.-Nr. / VAT ID: DE 213 472 880



--
Heiko Seeberger
Managing Director Technology

Weigle Wilczek GmbH
Martinstraße 42-44
73728 Esslingen
Deutschland

T (+49) 711 4599980
F (+49) 711 45999829
www.weiglewilczek.com<http://www.weiglewilczek.com/>

Geschäftsführer / Managing Directors: Dr. Stephan Wilczek, Heiko Seeberger
Sitz der Gesellschaft / Domicile: Esslingen a. N.
Amtsgericht / Register Court: Stuttgart, HRB 214442
USt-Ident.-Nr. / VAT ID: DE 213 472 880



--
Heiko Seeberger

Company: weiglewilczek.com<http://weiglewilczek.com/>
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