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Re: [rdf4j-dev] archive.rdf4j.org - old sesame documentation
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2023, at 03:48, Håvard Ottestad wrote:
Hi Jeen,
One thing the user brought up was that there are a few links to the archive.rdf4j.org domain on some stackoverflow posts, and keeping those intact would be nice.
Like I said I don't think it's really our responsibility, but I have no objection either if you feel like setting this up.
A fourth option could be to set up a page that redirects the user to GitHub when they visit archive.rdf4j.org, keeping the url path intact so that links still work. If we want to make it extra obvious that the docs aren’t hosted by RDF4J then we could have the redirect not be a redirect but instead have it generate a simple page with a link and a note informing the user that the docs have moved and are not hosted by us.
That sounds like good middle ground. Setting up an Apache server redirect for the virtual host is easy enough - but we'll need Eclipse helpdesk to create a DNS record for the subdomain that points to our server (it currently just doesn't resolve). After that, all we need is a page in our own site that we can point the server redirect at - that page can then in turn contain a link to the external site.
Fwiw our server runs Apache 2 on Ubuntu and the virtual host configs can be found in /etc/apache2/sites-available . I've already stuck new config files in there for the archive domain, but they don't work yet (due to the missing DNS record), and they also currently just point to our own documentation.
I’ve forgotten my username and/or password to the server that hosts rdf4j, do you know if Eclipse can help me reset it? That way I can check if it’s feasible to make a redirect page.
I had a quick look, and it doesn't seem that you're actually set up to access it at all. If you pass me your public ssh key, I can add you to the server ssh config and let you know how to connect.
Jeen
Håvard
On 18 Aug 2023, at 01:55, Jeen Broekstra <jeen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My personal take on this is that Sesame was decommissioned almost a decade ago, and there comes a time where it stops being our responsibility to provide documentation for it.
There's also the fact that the Eclipse Foundation doesn't own the rights to the Sesame name or the logo. I don't mind a link from the project website to an (externally maintained) archive, but I don't think we should add this documentation into our own code repositories.
Jeen
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, at 20:13, Håvard Ottestad via rdf4j-dev wrote:
Hi,
We've had a user reach out looking for the old documentation that was available at archive.rdf4j.org.
I would really like to get archive.rdf4j.org back up again and I'm considering three options:
1. Accept the minor security concerns of archive.rdf4j.org pointing to a github repo that is not in our control, assuming good faith on account of the author of the repo having spent time together with Jeen to reproduce the old documentation.
2. Ask Swirrl, the owners of the repo if they could transfer it to the new eclipse-rdf4j github organisation.
3. Fork the repo with the new eclipse-rdf4j github organisation.
I would really appreciate some feedback and guidance on this!
Cheers,
Håvard
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