Re: [ptp-user] Delayed startup of PTP resource managers

[Greg Watson <g.watson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dave,

In fact, anything you do that loads a PTP class will cause the plugins  
to be loaded and the resource managers should start. For example,  
calling PTPCorePlugin.getModelManager() should be sufficient. Or  
including a PTP view in your perspective will also work as you've  
found out.

Greg

On May 14, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Dave Wootton wrote:

> Greg
> I'm working on a plugin which has its own perspective and where I'm  
> using
> PTP to launch the target application using the profile configuration
> dialog to pick a resource manager and application to run. If I don't  
> have
> the resource manager running, then I can't complete the profile
> configuration dialog. I have to cancel out of that dialog then  
> switch to
> the PTP runtime perspective to make sure the resource managers are  
> running
> then go back to my perspective.
>
> I can see where if I was using the C/C++ perspective to develop an
> application, I would have the same startup problem since I would  
> probably
> be in that perspective most of the time and not remember to switch  
> to PTP
> runtime before shutting down.
>
> Maybe it's just something that needs to be noted for real users to  
> make
> sure they do and not a major inconvenience since they probably  
> wouldn't be
> restarting Eclipse multiple times during the day. I'm just hitting  
> this
> path a lot with my plugin development and was thinking this might be
> something that could be easily fixed to improve ease of use.
>
> I found out that if I add the resource manager view to my perspective,
> that the resource managers start automatically when I start Eclipse  
> with
> my perspective as the initial perspective. There's some cases where  
> the
> resource manager view would be useful in my perspective anyway, so  
> maybe
> that's the answer.
> Dave
>
>
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> Dave,
>
> This is a side effect of the lazy bundle activation policy. In theory
> it would be possible to work out a way to load PTP only if there were
> resource managers that needed to be started, but Eclipse generally
> frowns on plugins that don't operate this way. Any particular reason
> why you need this?
>
> Greg
>
> On May 14, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Dave Wootton wrote:
>
> > I noticed that if I have a PTP resource manager running when I
> > shutdown
> > Eclipse, that it does not automatically start until I switch to the
> > PTP
> > runtime view. I can see the delayed startup if I have some  
> > perspective
> > other than the PTP runtime perspective, such as the C/C++
> > perspective open
> > when I shutdown Eclipse. When I restart Eclipse, the resource
> > managers do
> > not attempt to start until I switch to the PTP runtime perspective.
> >
> > Is this an effect of Eclipse only loading the PTP plugins when the  
> > PTP
> > runtime perspective is opened? Is the intention that the user should
> > switch to the PTP runtime perspective to start the resource managers
> > before using any other perspective that relies on PTP resource
> > managers?
> > Dave
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