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RE: [platform-vcm-dev] How to use an already checked out cvs-project in Eclipse?
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Michael,
Thanks for the information. I'am looking forward to testing
Eclipse's EXT support.
Here my answers:
1. I agree, the synchronize command offers "update -n" functionality.
However, sometimes I find it more helpful and faster to read the
very compact output of a command line tool, i.e seing (at a glance)
just the changes and not the full source code.
2. The same as above applies to diff. What I am missing (or did not
find it?) is the option to compare two specific versions.
Ok, log was a bad example as it is not really nice in the command line.
3. Personally, I rarely change the keyword substitution mode. But from
time to time it is necessary to delete ("admin -o") some revision in
the repository (be it because of an "unwanted" commit or whatever).
I guess it's partly a matter of getting used to the way Eclipse
offers/presents the CVS functionality. When I do a "Check Out As..."
in the CVS Repostories View I can specify a project name and then
a Simple(?) project is created. What if I want a Java-Project?
But overall it looks really promising to me :-)
Daniel
-----Original Message-----
From: platform-vcm-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:platform-vcm-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Michael_Valenta@xxxxxxx
Sent: Montag, 25. Februar 2002 14:29
To: platform-vcm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [platform-vcm-dev] How to use an already checked out
cvs-project in Eclipse?
Daniel,
We provide extssh because it is a java-based ssh connection method. The
advantage is that the user does not need to get a separate ssh client. We
are hoping to add EXT support of some form to tomorrows integration build.
Thanks for the input on why you use the command line client. We're trying
to cover as many common usage scenarios as possible. I have some further
questions for you.
1. The synchronize command uses "update -n" to show the incomming and
outgoing changes. What do you find more appealing about "update -n"?
2. In what instances do you find the diff/log commands more convenient?
3. What types of operations are you using the admin commands for? Is it
mostly to change the keyword substitution mode or are there other common
uses?
Thanks
Michael Valenta
"Daniel Portmann"
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platform-vcm-dev
Commands that I miss now are thinkgs like "cvs -n update"
(e.g. to find out about the changes in a module) or the
administration commands.
Sometimes it is also more convenient to use the (more compact)
diff/log commands of a command line tool. Although I really
like the visual compare tool you provide!
So let me ask you: is it planned to support the "ext" method?
Or the other way round: what is the reason to use "extssh"?
Daniel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: platform-vcm-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:platform-vcm-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> Michael_Valenta@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:50 PM
> To: platform-vcm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [platform-vcm-dev] How to use an already checked out
> cvs-project in Eclipse?
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>
> Daniel,
>
> Yes, to go back and forth between the command line and Eclipse using
> ext/extssh is unpleasant at the current time. Why do you need to use the
> command line client/external CVS tools. More specificaly, what
> functionality do you feel Eclipse lacks which forces you to use another
> tool?
>
> Michael Valenta
>
>
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> "Daniel Portmann"
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> <platform-vcm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> c.com> cc:
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> RE: [platform-vcm-dev] How to use an already checked out cvs-project in
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> 22/02/2002 11:42 AM
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> Please respond to
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> platform-vcm-dev
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> Michael,
>
> I am not sure what you mean by saying I should connect using
> SSH 1 and a password: Using VCM 1.0?
>
> Basically I can connect using Team 2.0 but when checking out
> from Eclipse, I won't be able to use the external CVS clients
> anymore because they won't understand the extssh entries
> in the CVS\Root file(s).
>
> Daniel
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: platform-vcm-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:platform-vcm-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > Michael_Valenta@xxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:13 PM
> > To: platform-vcm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [platform-vcm-dev] How to use an already checked out
> > cvs-project in Eclipse?
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel,
> >
> > The Team 2.0 CVS doesn't support ext yet. Can you connect using
> > SSH 1 and a
> > password? If so, you can change the connection method used for the
> project
> > to extssh in the CVS project properties page and then Eclipse
> will prompt
> > for your password the first time you try to connect.
> >
> > Michael Valenta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Daniel Portmann"
> >
> > <daniel.portmann@insoni To:
> > <platform-vcm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > c.com> cc:
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> > Sent by: Subject:
> > RE: [platform-vcm-dev] How to use an already checked out cvs-project in
> > platform-vcm-dev-admin@ Eclipse?
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> > eclipse.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 22/02/2002 09:58 AM
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > platform-vcm-dev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I tried to do excactly what you suggested below:
> > I wanted to share existing Eclipse projects that point to a local CVS
> > workspace
> > (checked out using WinCVS or the OpenSSH/cygwin CVS client).
> > When trying to share the exisiting Eclipse projects I get this error
> > message:
> >
> > "Invalid CVS repository location format:
> > :ext:myName@ourServer:/some/location"
> > "Location must have form ":methodname:[user[:password]@host
> > [#port]:/path/to/cvsroot"
> > "Only the following methods are supported: pserver, extssh"
> >
> > Both CVS clients use the method "ext" (with SSH). The Eclipse method
> > "extssh"
> > seems to be unknown to both CVS clients. Trying to do it the other way
> > round, using
> > Eclipse to check out a module will have the unwanted effect that
> > my clients
> > don't
> > work anymore. Is there a way to use both tools?
> > I use the latest stable build 20020214 and have activated all the new
> team
> > plugins.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > ---
> > Daniel Portmann, www.insonic.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: platform-vcm-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:platform-vcm-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > Jean-Michel_Lemieux@xxxxxxx
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:58 PM
> > To: platform-vcm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: platform-vcm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [platform-vcm-dev] How to use an already checked out
> > cvs-project in Eclipse?
> >
> >
> > Hi Thomas,
> > First thing, although we aim to be compatible with the command line
> tools
> > (e.g. use your command line tool then refresh in Eclipse and
> > keep working)
> > we won't be testing these scenarios until at least the next milestone.
> >
> > Now for your question, if you are already working on source in a CVS
> > checked-out local workspace and would like to start working on this in
> > Eclipse using the CVS plugin, just follow these steps:
> >
> > 1. create a new project (either Java or a simple project) and
> change the
> > default location to point to you source.
> > 2. Select the project from Eclipse and from the context menu Team >
> Share
> > Project...
> > 3. The CVS plugin will detect that the project is already checkedout
to
> a
> > CVS repo.
> > 4. You should see the CVS actions in the Team Menu (e.g.
> > update/commit/tag...)
> >
> > We hope that by release Eclipses CVS plugin will be your preferred CVS
> > tool <G>...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thomas Singer
> >
> > <thomas.singer@regnis.d To:
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> > Sent by: cc:
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> > platform-vcm-dev-admin@ Subject:
> > [platform-vcm-dev] How
> > eclipse.org to use an already checked out
> > cvs-project in
> > Eclipse?
> >
> >
> >
> > 02/12/2002 05:34 AM
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > platform-vcm-dev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > this seems to me like a general question, that a lot of coworkers ask
> me.
> >
> > I have an already from-CVS-checked-out project hanging around
> on my hard
> > disk. How can I "mount" it into Eclipse and still use it
> outside with my
> > preferred CVS tool?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Thomas Singer
> > _____________
> > smartcvs.com
> >
