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Re: [platform-ui-dev] Auto-save questions
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Ok, maybe I misinterpreted some discussions. In that case nevermind. Sorry for the noise.
Regarding the oomph Setup. I have installed platform-ui and platform-runtime. The freeze monitoring is enabled by default. I can see in the progress information that resolving the bundle dependencies is taking the time.
I'm not sure what is wrong. The installation via oomph took hours. But that is probably an issue with the infrastructure we are seeing the last days. I just wondered why stuff from 4.5 is installed via oomph when installing 4.6. But I'm not familiar with oomph and would need some time to get around it. I tried it once but failed because of missing documentation and tutorials. I know about the recordings of the talks @eclipsecon but for that I also need some dedicated time I currently don't have.
@Stefan
Why are you against adding the old information as a second path? If something fails with oomph users should be still able to workaround with the manual installation path.
Am 13.07.2016 10:13 schrieb "Stefan Xenos" <
sxenos@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
If you face issues with the Oomph setup, I suggest to recreate the information on the wiki.
Are you suggesting that he roll back in time and follow the old steps, or that he paste the old steps back into the wiki? I think it would be premature to post a second set of setup instructions on the wiki when there's no evidence yet to connect Dirk's problem with Oomph.
> I suppose the performance issues in my eclipse installation for platform development are related to the oomph installation or something like that.
Your JVM probably came with a profiler called visualvm or jvisualvm. Please try running that to determine the source of long running slowness. If you're seeing short intermittent UI freezes, please enable UI freeze monitoring in your Eclipse preferences and then check your logs. Let's not jump to conclusions about the cause before gathering data.
Which specific projects did you enable when you ran your oomph setup?
> Where did
you hear that? I'm not aware of such a discussion.
Me neither.
Dani
From:
Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
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UI component developers list." <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
13.07.2016 09:29
Subject:
Re: [platform-ui-dev]
Auto-save questions
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> Now I heard that Auto-save should become enabled
by default with oxygen. So I need to care.
Where did you hear that? I'm not aware of such a discussion.
> Hopefully I can remember how to do that as that information was removed
in favour of oomph. :(
If you face issues with the Oomph setup, I suggest to recreate the
information on the wiki. You should be able to see them in the wiki
history.
Best regards, Lars
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Dirk Fauth <dirk.fauth@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> IIRC there was quite some discussion on adding Auto-save to Eclipse.
As I am
> not a fan of that feature and it is disabled by default I didn't care
much.
>
> Now I heard that Auto-save should become enabled by default with oxygen.
So
> I need to care.
>
> Saving in Eclipse typically triggers several actions, start compiling
and
> execute configured save actions. I suppose that still happens with
> Auto-save, correct? AFAIK IntelliJ doesn't have such mechanisms.
>
> Now regarding the use in Eclipse I have two concerns:
>
> 1. I typically configure organize imports and auto formatting (we
also have
> that in platform). If there is Auto-save enabled, does that mean my
code
> changes frequently while working on it? Feels strange that such things
> happen in between automatically without being triggered by the user.
>
> 2. In workspaces with a lot of projects this can cause serious performance
> issues, as compilation is triggered. I currently have such issues
when
> working on the platform and on every save action I have to wait because
the
> IDE freezes (Btw without errors or the freeze reporting comes up).
>
> Maybe I don't understand the implementation in Eclipse, but for me
Auto-save
> feels wrong when taking our actions on save into account.
>
> Greez,
> Dirk
>
> P.S. I suppose the performance issues in my eclipse installation for
> platform development are related to the oomph installation or something
like
> that. It feels inconsistent. I think I will switch back to use the
manual
> installation again. Hopefully I can remember how to do that as that
> information was removed in favour of oomph. :(
>
>
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