Re: [platform-ui-dev] Coolbars enabled by default in F2

[Nick_Edgar@xxxxxxx]

If we add predefined groups in the future, it would still make sense to 
allow an action set to define its own group, much like how an action set 
can define its own menu currently.

It would also make sense to establish guidelines for where actions go, 
e.g. a refactoring group, a clipboard group, etc.

Nick





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Sounds good. I assume ActionSets could still decide not to go under any of 
the pre-defined categories.

I wonder if you could go further and also provide guidelines (if not 
pre-defined groupings) as to where the EditorParts should place things 
like Print, Copy, Cut, Paste.... Undo, Redo, etc. I guess there aren't 
many of these. nevermind.

Nick_Edgar@xxxxxxx




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We enabled Coolbars by default for F1 because we are committed to going 
with them, and this is forcing us to iron out the problems.
There are still a few layout problems, particularly with dragging, that we 

are looking at.

We will be removing the preference for 2.0, which is why we haven't moved 
it out of the Work in Progress page.

As for the grouping, it currently defines one CoolItem per action set, 
plus one for the workbench actions, plus one for the editor contributions.
We considered doing as you suggest, where the CoolItems are declared 
separately and the action sets specify which one(s) they contribute to.
I think this makes sense, but this will have to wait until post 2.0.

Nick






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It seems strange that Coolbars are enabled by default in F2. This is 
listed as "Work in Progress", which I interpret to mean experimental since 

the current look isn't quite ideal.

I don't work with ActionSets much. But, it seems that there are nicely 
defined groups on the Menubar like "File" and "Navigate", yet the Toolbar 
seems to lack these logical groupings. It seems as if each ActionSet just 
defines its own top-level Coolbar, instead of extending an existing group 
defined by UI. For example:

New and Create Java Xxxx aren't on the same coolbar.
New and Create CVS location aren't on the same coolbar.
Run external Tool and Run aren't on the same bar.
Open Type is not with Save (the place where Open Resource should be but 
isn't)

IMO, these things should be grouped on the same coolbar, and possible 
separated using a separator. Coolbars with one item look odd and are hard 
to reorganize.

-Randy Hudson


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