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Re: [platform-swt-dev] Running ControlExample exampleprogramfailsunderHP-UX


Can't be ... to admit a wierd JAVA thing is to admit defeat! <g>
Can you post both the C code and the Java code again?

Steve



Sridhar Bidigalu <sridhar@xxxxxxx>
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Steve,

I had tried using it in the C program, it works. It fails only
when using  it within Java class. I believe it is the weird JAVA
thing:(

-Sri

Steve_Northover@xxxxxxx wrote:
 
Sridhar,

Could you try the following.  Add the XInitThread to the example Java code
I sent you (the code you translated into C) and determine that this fails.  Also,

try adding it to the C code you translated.  Both should fail.

<rant>
The whole "XInitThreads" thing is something that the X (Unix?) community should be

ashamed of.  This is the official, sanctioned API to do multi-threaded X programming

on Linux, AIX and Solaris (and now HP) and it doesn't work for international programming,

with drag and drop, printing ... and now XFillPolygon.  What this means is there are no

interesting multi-threaded applications or stated another way, every comprehensive

application (like Eclipse or Netscape) must implement their own locking.  This code

is not trivial, especially getting it right with respect to the event loop.  Sheesh!

Now, you and I may hate Windows but when they introduced threads from 3.11 to 95,
the international support continued to work, the printing continued to work, the drag

and drop continued to work ...

</rant>

I'm sorry about the <rant> but I just need to sound off somewhere.
Steve
 
 
 

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Sridhar,
We removed the call to XInitThreads and replaced it with our own thread
locking mechanism.
I believe we did this in about the middle of February.
We did it because we had an unbelievable number of problems with
XInitThreads: hangs in drag & drop, printing, and using the IME.
Please try the latest drop of eclipse (I am currently running 20020305,
and it is basically fine - only a few unimportant annoyances <g>).
Let us know if your polygon draws using the latest SWT code.
Carolyn
 
 
 
 

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Guys,
I traced thru. the SWT code and the problem occurs in XInitThreads.
I was running the stable build drop 200020125. And it, does use
the XInitThreads. Since, I had no clue about the SWT code, I did
not know, where to look for the XInitThreads and when I traced thru.
the program, I saw it get initialized at Display class of SWT. I created
my own JNI method, where it creates a shell calling X, Xt
directly(which uses XFillPolygon) and provided calling this method
within SWT code, until I reached where it stopped drawing XFillPolygon.
And, it failed to draw after calling XInitThreads.
Does this mean I can take out calling XInitThreads? and everything should
work fine. Can anyone tell why it use to fail calling XinitThreads?
Thanks
-Sri

Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxx wrote:

> I hope, everyone do agree that the problem is isolated
> to SWT code and some kind of memory corruption is going
> on, correct?

Sridhar,
      The problem is that, perfectly reasonable, working SWT code that
runs on several versions of linux, as well as Solaris, is failing because
of an incompatibility between that code and the HP-UX implementation of
X/Motif. I _do_not_ believe that memory corruption is the problem,
although I _do_ believe it's probably the *symptom* you are seeing.
      Basically, you need to look at all the native calls which are
occurring in the "high level" example James sent, and compare them against
the ones in the "low level Java PI" version. If there are any calls which
show up in the high level one which are not in the low level one, then
they are possible problem sites. For the calls which show up in both, make
sure the arguments are reasonable in both. If you have not got a debugger
that you can use for this, then you will need to add printfs, etc. If
you've got a JVMDI compatible VM, then you should be able to use the
remote debugging support in Eclipse to help you.
      The most obvious places where there could be problems are:
              - differences in expected arguments/return values between
HP-UX Motif and, the other Motifs.
              - new endian problems which we haven't seen yet (although
this would be somewhat odd, since we do run on at least one big-endian
platform)
              - type size differences
              - type layout differences
      If, for example, you find a place where a bogus argument is being
passed to one of the natives, then you need to trace back through the code
to find out where it was created.
      Really, there's not a lot more I can say though, You actually have
the best possible situation you could expect to have when porting. You
have two very small examples which should be doing the same thing but
aren't. You're just going to have to work through them.
I wish I could be more helpful,
McQ.
 
 
 

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