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RE: [platform-core-dev] RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Straw manproposal

BTW, I'm going through these in the order I recieved them so please bear with me if this is already answered by now :).
 
- resource delta. As we discussed at the meeting, this is definitely an area where we need investigation. Can we simply reuse the existing resource delta mechanism, or do we need to involve the file system layer, or a combination of both.
 
- alias management. This is really a file system level issue, especially with the problems we've had in the past with symbolic links. They need to be explicitly modeled in the file system.
 
- asynchronous APIs. As we discussed, there is a need for asynchronous APIs as well as sync ones. The KDE IO system apparently does a good job at that. We've also learned a lot from our experience at async-ness of device debug.
 
- alternative backing store for resources. As I mentioned in the proposal, the mechanism for providing the resource to file mapping for a project should be extensible. One of the extensions we'd need is one that replicates the existing behavior to support bringing forward of existing projects. This could be used by the RCP folk to keep things simple.
 
Cheers,
Doug.


From: platform-core-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:platform-core-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:55 AM
To: E4 developer list; platform-core-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [platform-core-dev] RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Straw manproposal

Hi all,
 
just few thoughts for discussion based on the Strawman proposal:
  • Where is the resource delta / notification mechanism going to live?
    If the filesystem (EFS) layer is to support direct copy/move operations, should these lead to resource deltas? If yes, then the filesystem layer needs resource delta / notification / refresh mechanisms, which I'm not sure is a good idea since I like the current design of filesystem == stateless and resources == stateful.
  • Where is alias management (symlinks) going to live?
    Right now it's at the resource layer, is it going to be pushed down to the filesystem layer?
  • What about asynchronous APIs?
    EFS is synchronous in nature, do we want to beef it up to support asynchronous, or forget about it?
  • What about alternative backing storage for Resources?
    Right now, the only coupling between EFS and Resource is the URI. If this is to change, it won't be possible any more to have an IResource implementation that is not backed by an actual file system. Is this desirable? What do RCP people say to that?
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
 
 


From: eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:19 AM
To: platform-core-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; E4 developer list
Subject: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Straw man proposal

Hey gang,
 
To feed the discussion for tomorrow's resource meeting, I have put together a straw man proposal for the e4 resource system architecture. I'm sure it has a lot of holes and I'm hoping you'll help me fill them. I could also be totally on the wrong track and maybe there's better answers we can put on the table. But let's discuss.
 
 
Also at tomorrow's meeting we should discuss if we want to continue our discussions on the platform-core-dev list, or move them to the e4-dev list. My opinion is changing on this. I'd like to get concensus from the team on how we want to do this.
 
Cheers,
Doug.

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