It seems that the ranking issue comes down
to a fundamental choice:
1) We allow anonymous rankings. On the plus side, this probably
means more voting and fewer inhibitions by the voters to express their
opinions. On the minus side, abusers will always find a way around our defenses
as long as they remain anonymous.
2) Only registered users can vote. On the plus side, there is
full transparency – we can trace any vote to a specific user so abuses
can be dealt with on a personal level. This should significantly limit
the number of bogus rankings. On the minus side, users may be less
inclined to vote for privacy reasons.
The rankings were initially identified as
an issue when we transferred EPiC to Eclipse.org because Eclipse has a
responsibility to be impartial towards its members and the community, a
responsibility that the alliance didn’t have (although fairness was a
goal). Even if the realty is that we do an excellent job at preventing
abuse, the perception of fairness is as important. Can we achieve this
without requiring registration?
While this is a healthy debate, we should
put this to a vote soon. I propose that we vote (via the email system
used thus far) by Monday of next week.
Eric
From: phoenix-epic-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:phoenix-epic-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ian Skerrett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006
6:52 AM
To: 'The EPIC component of Phoenix'
Cc: 'Mik Kersten'
Subject: [phoenix-epic-dev] FW:
bogus rankings on EPIC
All,
Mik Kersten sent me an e-mail complaining
about some of the rankings that have been made on EPIC. I think we need
to decide how we want to respond to Mik’s concerns.
Btw, Mik agreed for me to post his
original e-mail on the mailing list. Please copy him on any replies,
since he has not subscribed to this list.
Thanks
Ian
From: Mik Kersten
[mailto:beatmik@xxxxxxx]
Sent: September 15, 2006 2:38 PM
To: 'Ian Skerrett'
Subject: bogus rankings on EPIC
Hi Ian,
Could you give me the email address of someone responsible for
EPIC? I have submitted 3 email/web complaints of bogus rankings trying to
bring up Instantiations products and bump others near them on the top-10
down. I still have received no response and the bogus ranking is
continuing, e.g.:
http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Web_Links&file=index&req=ShowRaterDetails&userid=&hostname=68.178.73.218
If these kinds of problems with anonymous rakings are not addressed pro-actively
by EPIC abuse like this is likely to continue, and someone could blog about
this and make EPIC look untrustworthy.
Mik
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Mik
Kersten, http://kerstens.org/mik
Mylar Project Lead, http://eclipse.org/mylar