Re: [pde-dev] Discontinue API Tools ( was Re: What do API tools want her

[Hannes Wellmann <wellmann.hannes1@xxxxxxx>]

I understand and agree that the current situation is unpleasant or better annoying.
Nevertheless we need some form of API tooling and I don't know if other techniques and tools can deal better with the PDE specialties like re-exported Required-Bundles (which is likely causing your issues)?
What would be the alternatives in this case?

 

In case it would require more time/effort to adjust the existing code base to the new tooling (e.g. remove all required-bundles) it could be simpler to fix the PDE API-tools instead.
Using Re-export in general is bad and I fully agree/support improving PDE's Import-Package support in general but since probably many rely on re-exported require-bundle that it will take some time and discussion to get rid of that and will probably not work until there is a equivalent convenient solution available (like automatically calculated Import-Packages)
But my blind guess is that other tools (probably from BND?) would also have their difficulties with that.

 

> as even the build-setup is horrible complex and hard to perform including calling helper mojos and ant scripts.

 

Since we are working on a API-tools plugin at Tycho, that problem should no longer exists in the not to distance future (I hope to have time to continue my work on that soon).

 

Furthermore I had the intention to improve PDE's API tools in the future with regard to detecting necessary version bumps in Features and Plugins already in the IDE.

 

That being said, if there is a 'drop-in' replacement for PDE's API tools I would not object to use that instead.
But I would not assume that such immediate drop-in exists, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Nevertheless, if a suitable library exists we could consider to use that in the core of PDE's API tools and add reasonable PDE specialties on top of that.

 

Greetings,

Hannes

 

Gesendet: Samstag, 05. November 2022 um 15:31 Uhr
Von: "Christoph Läubrich" <laeubi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
An: pde-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [pde-dev] Discontinue API Tools ( was Re: What do API tools want here?)

So now three month later, still no one know why API tools complains, or
even what the error message means. Ed has done some analysis and even
found that all quick fixes are broken here and even adding code in mini
steps do not help any further.

For me the question is if there is no support, no maintenance or
development available if it is time to discontinue API tools, as even
the build-setup is horrible complex and hard to perform including
calling helper mojos and ant scripts.

SO if PDE itself can't master its own API tools I think its time to face
the truth and recommend to stop using it and migrate to other techniques.

Am 06.08.22 um 08:16 schrieb Christoph Läubrich:
> Hi PDE-Devs,
>
> I have a strange error from the API tools and no clue what it want here,
> the error is:
>
> The type org.eclipse.pde.ui.launcher.AbstractPDELaunchConfiguration has
> been removed from org.eclipse.pde.ui_3.14.0
>
> see build [1]
> and PR [2]
>
> Any hint would be welcome ... I think it would be the best to directly
> add any comments to the PR.
>
>
> [1] https://ci.eclipse.org/pde/job/eclipse.pde.ui/job/PR-214/6/consoleFull
> [2] https://github.com/eclipse-pde/eclipse.pde/pull/214
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