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Re: [ormf-dev] Jaxen revisted

I will check out all these stuff at dawn today. I have created another bugzilla account the jojy_sv@xxxxxxxxxxxx you may assign it to that account
-Jojy
--- Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

From: Joel Rosi-Schwartz <Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: jojy_sv@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Achim Loerke <Achim.Loerke@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: The Open Requirements Management Framework project development list <ormf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ormf-dev] Jaxen revisted
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:45:41 +0100

That great. As Achim was the one how did the initial analysis/scoping he is best placed to suggest where to start.

Have a look at the thread I have been having with Filip Jirsák on the dom4j-dev mailing list, you will find the archive here. Filip has offered to assist as he is able.

I opened a Bugzilla (251041) to start tracking this. I was not able to assign this to jojy_sv@xxxxxxxxxxxx, what email do you use for Eclipse Bugzilla?

Any questions please ask.

Cheers,
Joel


On 16 Oct 2008, at 06:23, george sebastian wrote:


Hi all,

I can pick this up. But I require some more clarification I will go through the information I have and will post for any queries I have.

Any pointer on where to start is greatly appreciated.

Regards
George S
--- Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

From: Joel Rosi-Schwartz <Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Jojy Vempus <jojy.sv@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: The Open Requirements Management Framework project development list <ormf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ormf-dev] Jaxen revisted
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:06:48 +0100

Hi Jojy,

I do not know if you have seen this thread seeing as you did not get  
signed up to the list until today.

Would you be interested in picking up this hunk of Jaxen work? Achim  
did the initial scoping exercise and came up with an estimate of 5  
days. I have been in contact with another Eclipse project that did  
similar surgery on Jdom in 2 days, but they had some experience with  
the internals already if I remember correctly. In any case that gives  
us a fair bracket as far as scope. The current project lead of Dom4J  
is willing to advise, but note that he is has not worked on Dom4j 1.6  
as he; he picked up the dormant project to move it forward to 2.0. He  
admits that he has no great knowledge of this area, but he is will to  
help as he may.

Let me now if you think it is suitable for you as a task. Time frames  
are by the the end of iteration one which is 16 November.

You might also be interested in the ormf-dev list threads "Jaxen woes"  
and "A predicament with Jaxen" for background.

Thanks,
Joel


On 14 Oct 2008, at 10:20, Joel Rosi-Schwartz wrote:

Actually I can think of some strong remarks :-)

I was thinking that Jojy may be able to pick this up as you already  
have a lot on your plate.

As far has quality is concerned, my opinion is that if the Dom4J  
teams replies and are willing to assist, then we can consider a  
proper job of it. Otherwise it is as quick'n'dirty as we can by with.

Joel


On 14 Oct 2008, at 09:48, Achim Loerke wrote:

Darn!

Okay, if no one else has a suggestion I'll start replacing Jaxen as  
a provider from dom4j. Just one question: should this be a  
quick'n'dirty hack or do we want to make this a clean solution for  
all dom4j users. Seeing our limited resources I'd vote for the  
first, especially if we still plan to replace dom4j completely.

Plan: hopefully done end of October.

Yahya, can you start working on the configuration management? What  
we need now is someone who will work with the team to setup a  
release environment which will support nightly builds and nightly  
tests, i.e. a release engineer. We can talk about details later,  
but is this something you can do?

Achim

Joel Rosi-Schwartz wrote:
I would love to do that but the EMO-IP would not grant permission.  
I will forward their email for reference. I do not understand the  
rationale but that is the way that is :-(
I agree with you about spinning wheels, but I also am concerned  
that we get no community exposure till next Spring :-/
Joel
On 14 Oct 2008, at 09:04, Achim Loerke wrote:
I just read my initial findings on replacing Jaxen (memory gets  
really weak when you grow older). To wrap it up: seems like no  
little effort.

I would go the way other projects do with their non EPL  
components: tell the user to download and install it separately.  
This seems reasonable since this would be an interims solution  
which will go away with some future release. I really don't want  
spend time on migrating some software we will throw out a few  
month later.

Technically we could tell an alpha/beta tester to download the  
jar and put it in some plug-in directory or we could define a  
plug-in which will export the Jaxen classes and define an update  
site outside the Eclipse domain (this would be the Subversive  
approach).

Achim

Joel Rosi-Schwartz wrote:
Hi,
I am a embarrassed to admit that I made a fundamental error when  
B. and I were doing the planning exercise. The plan <http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=technology.ormf
states that at the end of M1 we have "Available functional  
system based on OSGi server". Well that is not quite the case  
because I conveniently forgot that we still had the Jaxen  
dependency to contend with. Sorry, sigh... and all that :-(  The  
EMO-IP team has said that there is not an issue with us using  
Jaxen in our local workspace as long as it is not checked into  
SVN or distributed by any means by us outside the team. This at  
least means that we can do testing at the end of M1.
There are a couple of ways to handle this. The simplest of  
course is to change the plan. The other is to tackle the  
modifications to Dom4J to excise Jaxen. Personally I would  
prefer if we had an early alpha out next month than wait until  
next March. Community feedback even on a limited alpha basis  
would be very good IMHO. Not that I want to skew the opinion of  
the team ;-)
We have several options on how to resource the work if that is  
the way we decide to go. If Achim manages Yahya on CM possibly  
he has the bandwidth to continue with this. Otherwise any one of  
Yahya, Jojy or possibly Wolfgang (if he is back among the  
walking living:-)  Achim started doing the feasibility and  
scoping exercise on this, so I think he is best place to guide  
this discussion.
Your thoughts please!!
Joel
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