Hi,
> we discussed this on the Mylyn call and the consensus was that we don't have
> the bandwidth to maintain a separate website and git repository for each
> sub-project. Hence I have gone ahead and resolved this bug which provides
> much nicer and more informative pages with links to all bug-projects for free
> (see
http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/docs/):
http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/docs/) should
provide a quick and good overview on the project.
>From this point of view, the data-driven websites provide too many
information.
Who care about "commit activity" or the list of all releases on the
first page.
On the other side, maintaining a regular project website requires a lot
of
time. There is a need for good content and for good page organization.
The
mechanism described by Alex Lagarde at #Comment 5 is also a legit
requirement
for project containers like mylyn docs. This should also be implemented
if we
go with a regular project website.
See: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=389480#c5
Let say that considering the effort required by a specific website,
using the
data-driven pages for the moment is the best solution.
We should move forward and improve what we have for the moment:
1. Improve the wiki Page:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mylyn/Docs
2. Work on a good description.html
(I suggest to wait for Bug 389672. Then we can make a proposal using
gerrit)
3. Improve the navigation tree on the left (in the data-driven page)
For the moment 3 links point to the same page at the end, and there is
link
to "Mylyn" that has nothing to do with "Mylyn Docs"
Mylyn Docs [1]
|-> Website [2]
|-> Wiki [3]
|-> Getting Started [4]
|-> Documentation [5]
|-> Plan [6]
|-> Downloads [7]
* [1] Mylyn Docs
Link to
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=mylyn.docs
This is a redirection to:
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=mylyn.docs
Probably OK.
* [2] Website
Link to http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/docs/ OK
* [3] Wiki
link to http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mylyn
should be http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mylyn/Docs
* [4] Getting Started
link to http://eclipse.org/mylyn/start/
Not OK, this is Mylyn content and has nothing to do with Mylyn Docs.
* [5] Documentation
=> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Mylyn/User_Guide
Not OK, this is Mylyn content and has nothing to do with Mylyn Docs.
* [6] Plan
link to
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=mylyn.docs
Is OK, but Mylyn Doc does not seems to have a plan.
* [7] Downloads
link to http://eclipse.org/mylyn/downloads/
This is OK because WikiText downloads are available from this page.
Where are the links for the navigation? What is the process to make a
change proposal for these links?
Jérémie
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:50:27 -0700, Steffen Pingel
<
steffen.pingel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we discussed this on the Mylyn call and the consensus was that we
> don't have the bandwidth to maintain a separate website and git
> repository for each sub-project. Hence I have gone ahead and resolved
> this bug which provides much nicer and more informative pages with
> links to all bug-projects for free
> (see http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/docs/ [1]):
>
> 354513: use data driven websites for sub-projects
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=354513 [2]
> [3] . Jeremie, please let us know if you have suggestions for
> updating the content.
>
> That said, if anyone wants to step up to maintain the Mylyn Docs
> website we can of course replace the data-driven page with a regular
> project site at any time. I would suggest to open a Bugzilla bug for
> that with a proposal and content etc. so that we can review and
> consider the request.
>
> I'll have opened a bug to migrate the existing content that is served
> under http://eclipse.org/mylyn [4] which includes the description.html
> for Mylyn Docs to Git to make it more easily accessible:
>
> 389672: Move Mylyn website to Git
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=389672 [5]
>
> Steffen
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Torkild Ulvøy Resheim wrote:
> Great initiative Jeremie!
>
> I agree that we absolutely need to do something about the web page.
> If we could get access to it committers and even contributors would be
> able to improve on it. Note that we also have
> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=mylyn.docs [7] for the
> technical bits.
>
> Best regards,
> Torkild
>
> 13. sep. 2012 kl. 10:14 skrev :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The website of Mylyn Docs [1] is really empty.
> > Could Mylyn Docs open a request to get its git repository for the
> > website [2] ?
> >
> > After the repository creation, we could start to create content.
> > To my mind the website should be as small as possible.
> >
> > * Description of the (sub)project / components:
> > - EPUB tooling
> > - Docs Framework
> > - HtmlText
> > - Wikitext
> > - Vex ?
> >
> > * Link to the other content sources:
> > Wiki, Eclipse Help, Mylyn download section, forum...
> >
> > It is important for every Eclipse Project to have a good landing
> page.
> > New users will check this first to get information.
> >
> > I could propose a first version that commiters can
> > review/correct/improve, before putting it online.
> >
> > Jeremie.
> >
> >
> > [1] http://eclipse.org/mylyn/docs/ [9]
> > [2]
> >
> http://waynebeaton.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/migrating-eclipse-project-websites-to-git/
> [10]
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:00:12 -0400 (EDT), emo@xxxxxxxxxxx [11]
> (portal on
> > behalf of emo) wrote:
> >> David,
> >> Projects are required to keep meta data up to date using the
> MyFoundation
> >> Portal (http://portal.eclipse.org/ [12]). The following
> problems were found
> >> with this project's meta-data:
> >>
> >> * Project home page does not exist (projecturl =
> >> http://eclipse.org/mylyn/docs/ [13] returns a 404)
> >>
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>
> --
> Torkild Ulvøy Resheim
> Consultant / Eclipse Committer / Senior Software Developer
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