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[mylyn-dev] FW: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Some items for Monday June 2 call

Note the plug-in/feature dependency concerns that David notes below.

 

Mik

 

From: eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David M Williams
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:26 PM
To: eclipse.org-planning-council
Subject: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Some items for Monday June 2 call

 


Some potential items of discussion for ramp down call, if there is room on the agenda:

1. Consistent features installed?
2. How to handle capabilities in EPP Packages?

1. Are all your features being installed as you expect them in all installation scenarios?
There's a change in behavior in "Software Updates" when using P2, instead of Update Manager.
See bug 231453 for some details and discussion.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=231453

This impacts us in WTP, and we need to improve the way our feature dependancies are defined (basically to remove all plugin dependancies and use feature dependancies instead).
This is critical for "patch maintenance" to work, since for this release, that will be feature based.
Plus, it's critical to get all our documentation installed, since that's only specified in features, not plugin dependancies.
Maybe others do not have this problem ... but, wanted to ask ... and give some warning this will be cause some "late"changes in WTP .. which hopefully will be transparent ... but, not sure.

So, from what I know, there's three ways of installing "stuff" and I'm wondering if we are (or if we should check?) that each results in consistent features being installed:
        unzip EPP packages?
        installation from "Software Updates"?
        installation based on just "unzipping" a collection of zip files?


2. I know of one possible discrepancy ... I think the Modeling Package includes Eclipse SDK _feature_ so it get's Capabilities preference page.
How do others do this?
We in WTP have not solved that yet ... and, I'm still wondering what the best solution is? (We do not want to include "SDK" just for one preference page!).
See bug 130502 for the long history and discussion of this issue which has existed for years ...
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=130502
... and re-reading it now, I see it concludes with
<quote>
since we are assuming that EPP will do something here, would it be reasonable
to reassign this bug to them?  Or perhaps we should open a new one and
reference this one...  Tod?  David?  someone want to carry that torch?

</quote>
 So .. I've opened bug 235039
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=235039

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