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Re: [modeling-pmc] MDT (EODM, UML2 Tools) Graduation
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Kenn,
I agree. I don't get the sense that these components are ready to exit
incubation.
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Thanks, Kenn. I agree with you that #2 is the right option at this time.
Best,
Rich
On 6/7/07 9:51 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rich,
At this point, I think the options are as follows:
1. Approve graduation of the component(s) and proceed to have the
Foundation conduct the review. In this case the version numbers of these
components would remain as is (2.0 for EODM and 1.0 for UML2 Tools).
2. Deny graduation of the component(s) but release them as part of Europa.
In this case, the version numbers will need to be changed (e.g. 0.9 for
EODM, 0.8 for UML2 Tools).
3. Deny graduation of the component(s) and not release them as part of
Europa. In this case, the version numbers could stay the same, but the
components would no longer be following the schedule of the MDT project
(and Europa release).
I personally thing that option 2 is the right choice for both components.
Back when we were planning the 1.0 release of MDT, we optimistically chose
to target 2.0 and 1.0 for EODM and UML2 Tools in anticipation that they
would be ready to exit incubation come release time. We were fully prepared
to deal with the possibility that they would not be ready to graduate.
Either way, we need to make a decision so that if we need to change version
numbers (for example), we can do so sooner than later (e.g. before I sent
out my legal certification for these components).
Kenn Hussey
Senior Software Developer
Rational Software, IBM Software Group
770 Palladium Drive
Kanata, Ontario, K2V 1C8
T: (613) 599-3980 F: (613) 599-3912
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Yes, but there could not a ?previous release? or else they wouldn?t just
now be exiting incubation, right? It seems this is the first actual
release, and I see previous 0.8 downloads, so to me it makes sense for this
to be 1.0.
Regarding UML2 Tools, I don?t think it?s ready to exit incubation,
actually. Taking a look at the 3 communities, it?s still looks like an
incubator. For development, we have 1 committer from 1 company, along with
2 active contributors from the same company (not so diverse). For
adopters, I don?t know of any commercial products yet building on UML2
Tools. From the newsgroup activity, the user community still seems
fledgling. Then, there?s the fact that although Michael, Tanya, and Sergey
have made great progress with the 4+ diagrams, it?s still a subset of UML2
diagrams. In conclusion, I guess I don?t see how spending another release
cycle in incubation for this component is a bad thing.
And then there?s the Europa train... As UML2 Tools is on the train, it is
supposed to be released (exiting incubation) in order to be a part. This
presents a complication, but at the same time seems no different than last
year when GMF itself released/exited incubation but shipped EMFT components
that were not yet out of incubation. This year, it would seem that MDT is
in this boat, releasing in Europa some new components are incubating. The
version number for UML2 Tools would need to reflect this (even a number
approaching but not yet an official 1.0.0). Other thoughts?
I?m not too familiar with the status of EODM, so will defer to others to
comment until I can take a closer look.
Best,
Rich
On 6/7/07 9:11 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rich,
I believe the only restriction is that a major version number (i.e.
anything before the first dot) cannot be used if still in incubation. We
chose "2.0" for EODM because the API, and specification version that it
conforms to, is quite different from the previous release.
Cheers,
Kenn Hussey
Senior Software Developer
Rational Software, IBM Software Group
770 Palladium Drive
Kanata, Ontario, K2V 1C8
T: (613) 599-3980 F: (613) 599-3912
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Hi Kenn,
I guess I missed part of this conversation and outcome along the way, but
how can EODM be using the 2.0 release number if it?s not yet out of
incubation? Shouldn?t they both be graduating and releasing a 1.0 version?
Thanks,
Rich
On 6/7/07 8:44 AM, "Kenneth Hussey" <khussey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I hereby request approval for the EODM and UML2 Tools components of MDT to
graduate from incubation to that we be declare 2.0 and 1.0 releases,
respectively, as part of the upcoming 1.0 release of MDT.
Thanks,
Kenn Hussey
Senior Software Developer
Rational Software, IBM Software Group
770 Palladium Drive
Kanata, Ontario, K2V 1C8
T: (613) 599-3980 F: (613) 599-3912
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