RE: [modeling-pmc] FW: Teneo

["Mike Milinkovich" <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Bogdan,

Please be assured that Teneo is welcome at Eclipse, that we understand the
goals of the project, and that we appreciate the value that it brings to our
community.  

In my view alarm is being raised unnecessarily.  There are changes being
contemplated as to whether code that an end user is required to download
(e.g. Hibernate) must receive our regular due diligence review and approval.
There has been some lack of clarity in this area and we are planning to put
together clear guidelines.  

These guidelines will be discussed at the May Board meeting, at which both
Ed Merks (as an elected committer board rep) and Richard Gronback (as
Borland's board rep) are invited to attend and participate in.  These
guidelines have not been finalized so we don't yet know what, if any impact
there will be on the Teneo project. (For example, do we grandfather existing
projects?) 

Once any impact has been identified it will be communicated clearly to the
project(s) affected.

Mike Milinkovich
Executive Director
Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
Office: +1.613.224.9461 x228
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeling-pmc-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vatkov, Bogdan
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:50 PM
> To: PMC members mailing list; Janet Campbell
> Subject: RE: [modeling-pmc] FW: Teneo
> 
> Hi Bjorn, Janet,
> 
> I am one of the potential users of Teneo. I am now really confused
> about
> the legal status of the project inside eclipse.org.
> 
> Did I get the statement right that the Eclipse Foundation is never
> going
> to provide a legal advice on the topic?
> I see there is already a long thread about Teneo/Hibernate or EPL/LGPL
> licensing issue. An impression is forming that either Teneo or
> Hibernate
> are not welcomed in the community. Is that the case?
> I guess that if the Teneo project is important for the MDSD interested
> community then this licensing issue would be resolved immediately.
> Is it the case that the target/focus/scope of the Teneo project is not
> clear to the Foundation?
> 
> I really hope that all my questions up till now have negative answers
> and that the Foundation will contact real license experts and will then
> provide a clear statement about the future of the Teneo project inside
> Eclipse.
> 
> Excuse me if my email sounds offensive. I just want the community to
> have a clear statement about the status of the project.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Best regards,
> Bogdan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bjorn
> Freeman-Benson
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:02 PM
> To: Ed Merks
> Cc: Janet Campbell; 'PMC members mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] FW: Teneo
> 
> Ed,
> The Foundation does not (will not) provide legal advice. Sorry.
> 
> Ed Merks wrote:
> > So in your opinion, is the interpretation of LGPL by Hibernate is
> > incorrect?  If so, what specifically are they interpreting
> incorrectly?
> >
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