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Re: [mdt-papyrus.dev] Documentation forplugin in plugin

Hi all, and Happy new year! :)

 

 

A little bit off-topic: should we split documents in different files? For example:

 

454275: [Profiles] Documentation shall be reworked

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=454275

 

Having multiple files for a documentation topic most likely improves maintainability and file-diff, but the side effect is on the user: when reading the document, the navigation is tedious, because we need to go back & forth after each section. It doesn’t seem to be possible to have the complete document on a single page if it is split in multiple files, and there is no link to jump directly to the next section. I guess it is possible to manually add these links, but then the documentation wouldn’t really be maintainable anymore. If anyone knows of a mechanism to automate or improve 00this, then splitting documents is probably relevant; but otherwise, I feel that adding a TOC at the top of the complete document (in a single file) is much more efficient for navigating.

 

And I notice that some documents don’t include the TOC at all, so a quick reminder for everyone: add __TOC__ at the beginning of the *.mediawiki file before generating the Eclipse Help, and everything’s magic :)

 

 

Regards,

Camille

 

De : mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de MAGGI Benoit
Envoyé : lundi 5 janvier 2015 10:16
À : Papyrus Project list
Objet : [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: [mdt-papyrus.dev] [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re:[PROVENANCEINTERNET] Re: [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re:Documentation forplugin in plugin

 

Hi Christian,

 

I think that the structure of the repository should be design to help developers/committers :

ð  As Onder said : it’s easier for a newcomer (even for experienced developer) to find and keep up to date documentation if it’s on the same place as the code.

 

About help.eclipse.org, we should write a little mojo for tycho and have a specific packaging grouping all documentation in one plugin

(I believe it’s what is required by the admins :  “the name of your help plugin and where we can find it on download.eclipse.org”)

ð  As François said  : packaging goal shouldn’t have any impacts on our plugin/directory structure

 

Happy New Year,

Benoit

 

De : mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de Christian W. Damus
Envoyé : vendredi 19 décembre 2014 13:23
À : Papyrus Project list
Objet : Re: [mdt-papyrus.dev] [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: Documentation for plugin in plugin

 

Hi,

 

One good reason for packaging documentation separately from all of the other plug-ins is so that it can be deployed separately, for example in the Eclipse Infocenter:  see bug 443315 [1].  Papyrus wasn’t contributed to help.eclipse.org in Luna; it must be in Mars.  And should be for Luna SR2 also, IMO.

 

Cheers,

 

Christian

 

 

 

 

On Dec 19, 2014, at 03:23, TESSIER Patrick 202707 <Patrick.TESSIER@xxxxxx> wrote:

 

Ok for extra-plugins.

But I think that documentation about main plugin must be inside. In this maner maintenance can be facilitate the second reason from Benoit.

 

For example I have found document about sash editor done by cedric dumoulin in the directory doc. (this doc was done with the version before papyrus eclipse).

I think that It was not maintained because everyone have forgotten that a doc existed somewhere..

Patrick

 

De : mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de LE FEVRE FRANCOIS
Envoyé : vendredi 19 décembre 2014 08:42
À : Papyrus Project list
Objet : [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: [mdt-papyrus.dev] [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: Documentation for plugin in plugin

 

Hey,

To my mind, it is important/critic to be able to separate each element/plugin.

A plugin should come with its own documentation, source code etc… It could live alone.

So I join Benoit’s proposition.

 

If you want to have doc packaged for all items/plugins, even if the plugin itself is not packaged inside the Papyrus RCP, then you have just to write a different releng for your papyrus rcp that aggregates all documentation from all registered plugins.

I do prefer this approach.

 

Have a good day.

 

Francois

 

 

De : mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de GERARD Sebastien 166342
Envoyé : jeudi 18 décembre 2014 18:23
À : Papyrus Project list
Objet : [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: [mdt-papyrus.dev] [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: Documentation for plugin in plugin

 

+1. Extra plgins should also précise that they have to be added to Papyrus first to be used.


De : LETAVERNIER Camille
Envoyé : ‎18/‎12/‎2014 17:27
À : Papyrus Project list
Objet : [PROVENANCE  INTERNET] Re: [mdt-papyrus.dev] Documentation for plugin in plugin

Extra-plugins can come with an installation guide, so it also makes sense to have the Documentation plug-in without having the plug-in

 

That was the case for example for the CSS Plug-in when it was still an extra-component, and it’s the case for CDO as well

 

It also gives more visibility to components when they are not installed

 

 

Camille

 

De : mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mdt-papyrus.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de MAGGI Benoit
Envoyé : jeudi 18 décembre 2014 17:23
À : Papyrus Project list
Objet : [PROVENANCE INTERNET] [mdt-papyrus.dev] Documentation for plugin in plugin

 

Hi,

 

All documentation plugins are (or at least should )stored here :  org.eclipse.papyrus\plugins\doc\*.doc

 

My question is : Why don’t we keep the documentation in the plugin it describes ?

For example : org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.gmfdiag.common.doc should be included in org.eclipse.papyrus.infra.gmfdiag.common

 

I see these advantages : 

-          Easier for a newcomer to find documentation when trying to add a feature

-          Easier to think of updating the doc when its already in the workspace

-          Easier to follow impact on documentation (same dependency tree as plugins)

-          Less plugins

-          Won’t miss documentation in the build when packaging an rcp or updating plugins

 

The only bad thing I see is that it won’t be any more possible to create a custom rcp without documentation but who will need that ?

 

Regards,

Benoit  

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