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Hi Ilshat,
as committer on the JWT project, I can give you some further information
about the BPMN view on JWT: the JWT Workflow Editor is designed as an
extensible toolset which provides possibilities to extend the editor with
additional elements (by using an aspect-oriented mechanism) and this already
been shown in a UML activity diagram view and an event-driven process chain
view. As more and more developers as well as business analysts are heading
towards BPMN it is only natural that there should also be an own view for
BPMN in the JWT editor. With your experience of the jBPM-designer for
Eclipse you are a natural candidate for our project.
Please contact the developers on the jwt-dev-mailing list for further
information (as this is probably not relevant for all persons following the
soc-dev-list). My former colleague Chris Saad who will also be the mentor
will be able to answer all your additional questions, I guess.
Good luck and best regards,
Florian
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Today's Topics:
1. GSoC 2010 - BPMN view for JWT (hasano)
2. Re: GSoC 2010 Project Idea-Eclipse based SCXML editor and
code generator (xunlong gui)
3. Re: GSoC 2010 - BPMN view for JWT (xunlong gui)
4. Re: GSoC 2010 Project Idea-Eclipse based SCXML editor and
code generator (Jacob Beard)
5. Re: GSoC 2010 Project Idea-Eclipse based SCXML editor and
code generator (xunlong gui)
6. Re: GSoC 2010 - BPMN view for JWT (hasano)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:00:28 +0500
From: hasano <mo.ais2010@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [soc-dev] GSoC 2010 - BPMN view for JWT
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Hi to all,
I worked with BPM tools before (jBPM-designer for Eclipse) and also
have expirience in Eclipse plugin development so it seems the subject
project is the right for me :o)
Could You, please, write about importance of the BPMN view for JWT,
what are the priorities of JWT project itself? What about plugin
functionality uniqueness?
Thanks in advance,
Ilshat
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:40:59 +0800
From: xunlong gui <ustbcoder@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [soc-dev] GSoC 2010 Project Idea-Eclipse based SCXML
editor and code generator
To: Eclipse Summer of Code Mailing List <soc-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Jacob,
Thank you for your reply, i did some survey jobs before post my idea here,
so i know these graphical editor,but My idea is different with them:
1. I want to build this SCXML graphical editor base on GMF as a Eclipse
plunge-in project, so it will be under Eclipse licence,this is why i post my
idea here.
2. My editor focus on editing and debugging huge and complex SCXML file,
according to my working experience with SCXML, if a SCXML file has dozens of
business logic,it is so hard to debug it. At least, my tool will supply
simulation,break-point debug,show running context attributes and data model
values, it will show us whether the SCXML is correct state chart in our
mind.
3. As your words,"I am developing a framework for code generation from SCXML
that you may be able to reuse. It's already fairly well-developed, but
I haven't published it yet", I also think a code generation tool for SCXML
is so necessary, and I have finished some survey jobs and design jobs, have
mainly idea about how to implement it. I post this topic here to check if
one and all are interested in this code generation tool from SCXML to java.
At least, i know you are interested :-)
Gui
2010/3/21 Jacob Beard <jbeard4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Hi Gui,
>
> Here is some existing work that you may be interested in:
>
> Eclipse UML2Tools[0]: Has a graphical UML statechart editor.
> Unfortunately, I couldn't figure out how to use it to create actions
> and guards, and documentation is sparse.
>
> Topcased[1]: Also has a graphical statechart editor, which seems to be
> fairly complete and well-documented.
>
> SMUC[2]: Built into Topcased, reuses the SMC project to facilitate
> code generation.
>
> To my knowledge, none of these support graphical debugging, but I
> believe Topcased supports some form of simulation.
>
> Finally, I am developing a framework for code generation from SCXML
> that you may be able to reuse. It's already fairly well-developed, but
> I haven't published it yet, as I haven't decided how I should license
> it. I'm applying to continue developing it as a GSoC project, but not
> under Eclipse, as I don't think there's enough of a tie-in to Eclipse
> technologies.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Jake
>
> [0] http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/?project=uml2tools
> [1] http://www.topcased.org/
> [2] http://gforge.enseeiht.fr/projects/smuc/
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, zhong nanhai <higerinbeijing@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > I think it's a good idea, but weather your proposal can be accepted or
> > not, it depends on all the mentors and the Eclipse-soc administrators.
> > Anyway, just do it!
> >
> > On 3/21/10, ustbcoder <ustbcoder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have an idea for a Google Summer of Code project, and I wanted to
post
> it
> >> and see if there would be any interest in it in the Eclipse community.
> >> The basic idea of the project is to create a visual editor and debugger
> for
> >> SCXML which can also generate SCXML statechart to Java code.
> >>
> >> State Chart XML (SCXML) is currently a Working Draft published by the
> World
> >> Wide Web Consortium (W3C). SCXML provides a generic state-machine based
> >> execution environment based on Harel State Tables. SCXML is a candidate
> for
> >> the control language within multiple markup languages coming out of the
> W3C
> >> (see Working Draft for
> >> details,url:http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/).It is very useful to handler
> >> complex status transfer logic,but if a SCXML file is really so huge and
> >> complex,it will become too difficult to maintain and refactor or to
test
> its
> >> logic validity.
> >>
> >> This project is to develop a Eclipse plunge in visual editor which is
> >> capable of showing a graphical representation of the process model and
> >> allows for adding breakpoints to activities, variable modifications and
> >> managing the debugging process
> >> for SCXML.I have already done some work on both SCXML and Eclipse
> GMF,even i
> >> tried to implement a SCXML editor using GMF and got a little
> achievement,so
> >> i want to develop this editor with GMF and have enough confidence to
> finish
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Usually,State Chart XML file will be running on a SCXML engine(for
> >> example,Apache Commons SCXML,index page:
> http://commons.apache.org/scxml/),if
> >> some one only want to achieve the SCXML file's business logic,but do
not
> >> want to or can not use some SCXML
> >> engine due to licence problem etc,this tool can export SCXML file's
> logic to
> >> executeable Java code which has the same state logic translation with
> the
> >> SCXML file.
> >>
> >> This is my mainly idea,if anyone has any questions or comments, or
would
> be
> >> interested in mentoring this project, please let me know. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Gui
> >>
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:45:12 +0800
From: xunlong gui <ustbcoder@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [soc-dev] GSoC 2010 - BPMN view for JWT
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Hi llshat,
I am a student applying GSoC too,and i think as a candidate of this job, may
be you should finish these jobs (red words below) by yourself :-)
2010/3/22 hasano <mo.ais2010@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Hi to all,
>
> I worked with BPM tools before (jBPM-designer for Eclipse) and also
> have expirience in Eclipse plugin development so it seems the subject
> project is the right for me :o)
> Could You, please, write about importance of the BPMN view for JWT,
> what are the priorities of JWT project itself? What about plugin
> functionality uniqueness?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ilshat
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:48:45 -0400
From: Jacob Beard <jbeard4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [soc-dev] GSoC 2010 Project Idea-Eclipse based SCXML
editor and code generator
To: Eclipse Summer of Code Mailing List <soc-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:40 PM, xunlong gui <ustbcoder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> 2. My editor focus on editing and debugging huge and complex SCXML file,
> according to my working experience with SCXML, if a SCXML file has dozens
of
> business logic,it is so hard to debug it. At least, my tool will supply
> simulation,break-point debug,show running context attributes and data
model
> values, it will show us whether the SCXML is correct state chart in our
> mind.
Do you have any benchmarks you can share? Right now, my SCXML compiler
needs benchmarks.
Jake
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:17:21 +0800
From: xunlong gui <ustbcoder@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [soc-dev] GSoC 2010 Project Idea-Eclipse based SCXML
editor and code generator
To: jbeard4@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Eclipse Summer of Code Mailing List
<soc-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Do you mean some unit test tools for SCXML just like JUnit for Java ? I have
only mainly idea and some experiment codes, and finish some test jobs based
on Apache commons SCXML engine, But i just use it to debug SCXML file and do
not think it is really hopeful for SCXML compiler :-)
2010/3/22 Jacob Beard <jbeard4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:40 PM, xunlong gui <ustbcoder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > 2. My editor focus on editing and debugging huge and complex SCXML file,
> > according to my working experience with SCXML, if a SCXML file has
dozens
> of
> > business logic,it is so hard to debug it. At least, my tool will supply
> > simulation,break-point debug,show running context attributes and data
> model
> > values, it will show us whether the SCXML is correct state chart in our
> > mind.
>
> Do you have any benchmarks you can share? Right now, my SCXML compiler
> needs benchmarks.
>
> Jake
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:22:28 +0500
From: hasano <mo.ais2010@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [soc-dev] GSoC 2010 - BPMN view for JWT
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Hi, Gui.
The right question is already half the answer ;) This is a part of my
research sure.
2010/3/22, xunlong gui <ustbcoder@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi llshat,
>
> I am a student applying GSoC too,and i think as a candidate of this job,
may
> be you should finish these jobs (red words below) by yourself :-)
>
> 2010/3/22 hasano <mo.ais2010@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Hi to all,
>>
>> I worked with BPM tools before (jBPM-designer for Eclipse) and also
>> have expirience in Eclipse plugin development so it seems the subject
>> project is the right for me :o)
>> Could You, please, write about importance of the BPMN view for JWT,
>> what are the priorities of JWT project itself? What about plugin
>> functionality uniqueness?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Ilshat
>> _______________________________________________
>> soc-dev mailing list
>> soc-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/soc-dev
>>
>
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