Re: [january-dev] Januart Datasets and Java 8

[Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Scott, can you add comment on Java 8 and Kura? AFAICT from mailing
list [1,2] it supports Java 8, but with some ignorable warning?


[1] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/kura-dev/msg00337.html
[2] https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/1010703/
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Jonah Graham
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www.kichwacoders.com


On 25 October 2016 at 20:54, Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> (lets keep these discussions in public domain, I didn't realise last one
> wasn't)
>
>
> On 25 Oct 2016 11:55 a.m., "Jonah Graham" <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for asking around. I am at ECE and will ask around here for
>> thoughts.
>>
>> Jonah
>> ~~~
>> Jonah Graham
>> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>
>>
>> On 25 October 2016 at 10:42,  <Matt.Gerring@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > I have asked some of the possible collaborators on January their
>> > preferences. I agree with Peter that there should be no Java8 requirement
>> > unless it is actually required because some of the diaspora are certainly on
>> > 6.
>> >
>> > Cheerio,
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: january-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:january-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonah Graham
>> > Sent: 25 October 2016 09:56
>> > To: january developer discussions
>> > Subject: Re: [january-dev] Januart Datasets and Java 8
>> >
>> > I have added a branch in prep to do the downgrade if we decide to go
>> > that way here:
>> > https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/january/tree/downgrade_to_java_6
>> > ~~~
>> > Jonah Graham
>> > Kichwa Coders Ltd.
>> > www.kichwacoders.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On 25 October 2016 at 09:13, Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >> (Changed subject, was Re: [january-dev] January 1.0 released!)
>> >>
>> >> Hi Peter,
>> >>
>> >> I think this warrants further discussion. There are reasons I would
>> >> encourage Java 1.8:
>> >> - Not supporting Java 8 increases barriers to contributors (two ways,
>> >> 1 not being able to use "all" Java features, 2 tooling and setup makes
>> >> it more complicated*)
>> >> - Java 6 & 7 of EOL
>> >> - The IDataset, originally part of the API plug-in was 1.7 or greater
>> >> since DAWNSci initial import, the 1.8 was put in place in April.
>> >> Although some other bundles had lower reqs, having any dep be 1.8,
>> >> this essentially meant that everything was 1.8 in practice.
>> >>
>> >> So, when I set the 1.8 across the range, it was because of these
>> >> reasons, the lack of earlier discussion was due to the implicit
>> >> assumption on my part due to the last reason, so thank you for raising
>> >> it now to make sure it is discussed fully. (You did point this out
>> >> earlier[1], but I misunderstood the meaning of the comment at the
>> >> time).
>> >>
>> >> There is one strong reason against 1.8 (or at least delaying the move
>> >> to 1.8):
>> >> - A specific/known potential consumer of January datasets is stuck
>> >> with Java < 1.8
>> >>
>> >> Peter, please let me know your thoughts and what I may have overlooked.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Jonah
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://github.com/eclipse/january/pull/12#issuecomment-247993737
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ~~~
>> >> Jonah Graham
>> >> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
>> >> www.kichwacoders.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 24 October 2016 at 15:43, Jay Jay Billings
>> >> <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>> Peter,
>> >>>
>> >>> Sure. That works for me.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jay
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:40 AM, <Peter.Chang@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Jay,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ok, but can the january, j.asserts, j.examples and j.test be 1.6+
>> >>>> and the rest be 1.8+?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Peter
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From: january-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> [mailto:january-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Jay
>> >>>> Billings
>> >>>> Sent: 24 October 2016 15:37
>> >>>> To: january developer discussions <january-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [january-dev] January 1.0 released!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The form and geometry parts require Java 1.8.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jay
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:35 AM, <Peter.Chang@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Jonah,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for the release!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I had a chance to compare our repo with the new Eclipse repo and it
>> >>>> seems that Java 1.8 is required now. I thought we were targeting
>> >>>> 1.6. It's not important to Diamond but has this changed?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Peter
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: january-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> [mailto:january-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonah Graham
>> >>>> Sent: 21 October 2016 16:09
>> >>>> To: january developer discussions <january-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Science
>> >>>> Industry Working Group <science-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> Subject: [january-dev] January 1.0 released!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Everyone,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> January 1.0 is now available at https://www.eclipse.org/january.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The P2 Site is located here:
>> >>>> http://download.eclipse.org/january/releases/1.0.0/repository/
>> >>>> And you can check out January, browse examples, etc here:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://github.com/eclipse/january/tree/JANUARY_1_0_0#the-eclipse-ja
>> >>>> nuary-project
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>> Jonah
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ~~~
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