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RE: Re[2]: [higgins-dev] Display and schema information in IdAS API

Valery wrote: 
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Yes, our metadata mechanism is extensible but I don't think it is
> flexible. (i.e. we can define and use metadata on the instances of
> attributes but we can't do this on their types/definitions).

I agree. That's why you're proposing these extensions, right?

> Valery
> 
> Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 12:05:47 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > Tom wrote:
> >>
> >> In the past, we've been asked for ability to associate any kind of
> >> metadata with any items in the model.  Shouldn't we go for a flexible,
> >> extensible metadata approach?
> 
> > We do have an extensible metadata mechanism (i.e. anyone can add any
> kind of
> > metadata to their context's schema) but what we're proposing here is
> > essentially a standard set of metadata definitions that are defined in
> the
> > base higgins.owl.
> 
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> >>> "Jim Sermersheim" <jimse@xxxxxxxxxx> 01/16/07 12:03 PM >>>
> >> Valery,
> >>
> >> I just read this all the way through and apologize not doing so before
> >> responding the first time :).
> >>
> >> I agree with these points and add that we also need some additional
> >> information:
> >>
> >> - On digital subject models, it would be good to differentiate between
> >> _required_ and _optional_ attributes
> >> - On attribute models, we need to associate matching rules.
> Specifically,
> >> we need to list the matching rules used for equality, and optionally
> for
> >> ordering, and substring.
> >> In the past, we've also heard requests for the ability of an icon to be
> >> associated with items in the model so a management UI could use
> graphics
> >> from the model to display things like a picture of a person for a
> person
> >> DS, or a picture of a telephone for a phone number attribute.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> >>> Valery Kokhan <vkokhan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 1/16/07 5:47 AM >>>
> >>
> >> Several week ago MikeM proposed to add getName() method to IAttribute
> >> interface in order to be able to implement Display Token for CardSpace
> >> interaction with the STS. When I was trying to implement CardSpace
> >> compatible I-Card provider using IdAS as back end store I ran into
> >> similar problem - I just realized that IdAS API doesn't provide as
> >> much information about attributes as I need to implement UI for I-Card
> >> view/edit in the I-Card Manager component.
> >>
> >> It turns out that in order to use IdAS for the I-Card Manager we
> >> need to provide some additional information about attributes for
> >> display purposes.
> >>
> >> When I was looking at Information Card model I noticed that definition
> >> of Display Claim is a bit broader then Mike described:
> >>
> >> <ic:DisplayClaim URI=*xs:anyURI* ...>
> >>   <ic:DisplayTag> xs:string </ic:DisplayTag>
> >>   <ic:Description> xs:string </ic:Description>
> >>   <ic:DisplayValue> xs:string </ic:DisplayValue>
> >> </ic:DisplayClaim>
> >>
> >> So, along with "Name" (aka ic:DisplayTag) we may need to provide
> >> "Description" (aka ic:Description) as well but rather for each...
> >> *type* of claim (aka attribute) then each actual instance.
> >>
> >> Moreover, to have a complete set of information for visual
> >> representation of these items (claims and attributes) we may need to
> >> provide more then just "Name" and "Description".
> >>
> >> In my opinion it would be great to have complete set of information
> >> for visual representation as follows:
> >>
> >> 1. Name
> >> 2. Description
> >> 3. Display order
> >> 4. Display image
> >>
> >> What is important from my point is that in IdAS we may need to be able
> >> to provide display information described above not only for attributes
> >> but for all other items defined in the IdAS API (including digital
> >> subjects, attributes, individual properties inside complex attributes
> >> and even metadata).
> >>
> >> I see complete set of items in the IdAS API which should be able to
> >> provide display information as follows:
> >>
> >> 1. IContext
> >> 2. IDigitalSubject
> >> 3. IAttribute
> >> 4. IProperty (which is important in case of complex attributes)
> >> 5. IMetadata
> >>
> >> The question is where this display information could came from?
> >> Because such information is "static" we could define all required
> >> information in the context's schema.
> >>
> >> When I was working on API for representation of context schema in IdAS
> >> I introduced IDisplayData interface to provide display information
> >> about items defined in the context from the context schema. The
> >> problem is that current higgins.owl doesn't provide definitions for
> >> such kind of information.
> >>
> >> To solve this I've created a small addition to higgins.owl (see
> >> attached display-data.owl and modified person-with-address.owl as an
> >> example of usage) which will allow to put such information in
> >> context's schemas.
> >>
> >> In this ontology model "displayData" property is defined as annotation
> >> property and so we could put instance of such property in both class
> >> (context, ds) and property (attribute, metadata) definitions without
> >> contradictions with OWL DL restrictions.
> >>
> >> In such way we will be able to define display information for any kind
> >> of item in IdAS context and retrieve such information using idas.model
> >> API.
> >>
> >> Actually I think it would be more comfortably to work with IdAS
> >> API if we add few methods to retrieve display information from each
> >> item in the context (including context itself).
> >>
> >> Another thing I need in my implementation of I-Card provider is to
> >> know what attributes my digital subject could contain (not actually
> >> contains). I can obtain such information using idas.model API but it
> >> would be more comfortable if each context item could provide motel
> >> (information about its definition in the context schema) itself.
> >>
> >> In order to be able to provide two kind of information mentioned above
> >> (display information and schema information) I'd want to propose to
> >> add one more method to the following items in the IdAS API:
> >>
> >> IContext {
> >>   ...
> >>   IContextModel getContextModel();
> >> }
> >>
> >> IDigitalSubject {
> >>   ...
> >>   IDigitalSubjectModel getDigitalSubjectModel();
> >> }
> >>
> >> IAttribute {
> >>   ...
> >>   IAttributeModel getAttributeModel();
> >> }
> >>
> >> IProperty {
> >>   ...
> >>   IPropertyModel getPropertyModel();
> >> }
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Valery
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