Re: [epp-dev] Default enablement policy for Code Recommenders in EPP pac

[Marcel Bruch <bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I’ve mixed feelings on enabling recommenders by default. 

There are many discussions about performance these days and I know that Code Recommenders can cause a recognizable delay when loading a model the first time ( <100ms but recognizable). With our latest approaches we may be able to further reduce this but it will certainly not get much faster than 40ms avg. So whenever you trigger code completion the first time on, say, java.lang.String, it will take 40ms to load the model into the cache. I’ve the feeling that this should be a decision a developer explicitly makes.

Regarding integrating Mylyn:

Should be simple. We could get together for an afternoon and should be done. I’d offer to maintain the small extension.

Marcel

Am 20.11.2013 um 16:32 schrieb Steffen Pingel <steffen.pingel@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

I had the same thought. If you want users to benefit make it the default. We should chat if it makes sense to add task-focus to the code recommenders content assist. It just another way to proposals so an integration API could be fairly simple and users wouldn't have to make a choice but get the best of both worlds (if that scenario makes sense).

Steffen

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Yeah, no popups. We should be banning pop-ups across the board. They¹re
super annoying. It would be hard to find a UX expert who would disagree
except for the most critical of messages (like workspace out of memory).

Personally, I¹d like to see a better Welcome page that becomes part of the
users workflow. It would be a great place to bring things like that to the
attention of users.

I guess the other side of that question, why not turn code recommenders on
all the time?

Doug.

On 11/20/2013, 9:56 AM, "Marcel Bruch" <marcel.bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Hi package maintainers,
>
>by default Code Recommenders content assist silently disables itself if
>it finds the standard Java or Mylyn content assist being enabled on the
>default tab. On the Eclipse booth at Devoxx last week it turned out that
>many Eclipse users did not know about Code Recommenders being already
>available in their installations because of this silent deactivation.
>
>I¹m now looking for ways how to make Recommenders content assist more
>prominent so that Eclipse users get aware of it. Adding it to the welcome
>page may work but many say it¹s not read very often. I wonder how you¹d
>feel about a popup that (when code completion is triggered the first
>time) informs a user about the engine being available and asking a user
>to enable it or not.
>
>What do you think?
>
>Thanks,
>Marcel
>
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