| Re: [epp-dev] Proposal: Customize Default Preferences for Packages |
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Yes! Changing the defaults is something we do when defining our commercial product. The purpose is to make it look and work great for our users. So many options are there because the projects can't decide what the best answer is. As a product owner, I
get to decide (with the help of my design team, of course).
I have always felt that the packages were really products. As package maintainers, we are the owners of those products. We should feel free to make those products as great as they can be. They are the face of Eclipse these days and their popularity drives
the popularity of Eclipse.
Of course, it would be great if the projects would adopt these defaults for all their users, and maybe this is a great influencing tool to help them with that.
As part of the drive to give the Eclipse IDE some love, I do believe that all the IDE packages should be the same. In fact, I'm really interested in whether an Uber package could be built with all the IDE components co-installed. And then work on that
to make sure there's consistency across them all.
Great ideas Gunnar and Markus. I wonder if we could organize a UX review and see what else needs to be changed.
BTW, I'm also wondering what the best forum is for this kind of work. EPP is a huge part of it, but I wonder if we need an organizational structure that focuses specifically on the Eclipse IDE with an eye on the IDE packages and the projects that feed
into it.
Doug.
From: Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Eclipse Packaging Project <epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Monday, 15 July, 2013 2:57 PM To: Eclipse Packaging Project <epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [epp-dev] Proposal: Customize Default Preferences for Packages Am 15.07.2013 um 14:04 schrieb Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
One thing that I like to bring up here is that I prefer to have a common look and feel for all packages. That does not mean that there's no room for deviation for single packages, but there must be good reasons. Good point Markus! I agree that *if* defaults are applied they should be applied to *all* packages so that we don't introduce additional confusion.
As for the concerns about a specific preference, I think there should be some kind of community opinion finding (poll?). A group screaming the loudest is not necessarily a majority. At least, that's how I can imagine a workable solution for the packages
to come to some form of agreement. Well, of course things would be different if there is a central usability dictator but so far we don't have one...
-Gunnar
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