Re: [epp-dev] A new EPP SOA package

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> Question: Is there anyone out there who is against (1)? Any objections 
from other package maintainers or team members?

I'm a little against '1'. I don't want my voice to make the decision, but 
I'll at least give a dissenting point of view and see if anyone else 
agrees (or disagrees). 

My largest concern is that there's no time for any use or feedback from 
the community or adopters. Part of the purpose of the simultaneous release 
(and packages, in my view) is not the end-result, but the build-up to that 
end-result. Seems like the plan for option '1' focus on only the 
end-result ... producing a package ... with out demonstrating the steady 
predictability of milestones and release candidates. 

A smaller concern is that I think 'Swordfish' is part of the package, and 
they are not having their Release Review until the very last minute (Sept 
14th or so?) 
So, there is some risk that it won't make it, and this won't be known 
until the very last minute. 

In fact, looking at the list of features, it seems like exactly the same 
thing as the EPP 'Java Package' (that is, the one that has mylin, and xml 
in it) except for the addition of 
- org.eclipse.wst.ws_ui.feature
- org.eclipse.swordfish.tooling.feature

So ... doesn't seem like anything that should be hard for users to install 
or construct. 

On the flip side, I see how the "working group" wants the publicity, etc., 
but I just don't like the packages being a "marking tool" without the 
normal path of users and adopters trying it out for a few months first. 
(Remember, normally, someone must be "in the build" for Simultaneous 
Release by M4 or M5, which translates into nearly 6 months of community 
use before release). 

Would "Galileo SR2" be an option? That'd at least give some time to 
publish some versions before it was officially released. 

But, like I said, mine is just one view and I don't feel so strongly about 
it that I'd be insulted if you or others didn't agree. I definitely don't 
want to be 'negative' to new things, I just felt it important to voice the 
counter point of view. I'm fine to go with your decision (as EPP lead) 
either way, without further discussion or justification. 

Good luck!