| Re: [epp-dev] A new EPP SOA package |
Hi *,
just for my understanding: Is the content that you would like to have in this package already available from the Galileo p2 repository? Or from the Galileo SR1 p2 repository?
And for everybody else's understanding: Yes, I think there are many good reasons to align the EPP packages with the yearly release train.
First, it is the level of quality. Everything that is available from a release train is tested, works together (at least it should work together), has its IP approved, etc. and in the end, there is exactly *one* p2 repository that serves as input for the EPP package build. Especially the last fact is important for EPP, because everything else makes building packages overly complex and a nightmare.
Second, ... okay, I could go on to write up additional reasons or point to the mail archive where I've already written down many of them. ;-)
So back to my opening question: Where is your content? Is it already available from the Galileo p2 repository? If so this *could* change the situation.
Regards, Markus
2009/8/21 Oliver Wolf <oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx>
Why can't we build the SOA package with Galileo SR1? It won't be too different from existing packages in the beginning.
Oliver
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Von: "Zsolt Beothy-Elo" <zsolt.beothy-elo@xxxxxxxxx>
Betreff: Re: [epp-dev] A new EPP SOA package
Datum: 21. August 2009
Uhrzeit: 11:57:13
Ian, Markus,
the SOA IWG would really appreciate being able deliver a SOA package before the Helios release. We believe that providing the SOA package will help us to get in touch with interested parties and push that topic forward much better than only discussing this e.g. in the mailing list. I am a strong supporter of "release early, release often" and one year between two releases is an awful long time. How can we sort things out and agree on a release date for the SOA package?
@Markus: Thx for your offer to support in defining the package, as soon as we exactly know the contents of the package we will come back to you.
Regards,
Zsolt
Am 20.08.09 20:53 schrieb "Ian Skerrett" unter <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
Markus,
Is there a reason the EPP packages need to be tied to the release train? It seems a bit restrictive to make new packages wait what is essentially a year to be able to build a new package. If someone, like the SOA WG, wants to create a new package based on the Galileo release bits is there a technical issue that prevents this from happening?
Thanks
Ian
From: epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] <mailto:epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx%5D> On Behalf Of Markus Knauer
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:46 AM
To: Eclipse Packaging Project
Subject: Re: [epp-dev] A new EPP SOA package
Hi Zsolt,
some short answers:
- A SOA package was missing and is highly appreciated!
- Earliest possible release: You are correct that the release of EPP packages and especially the content of the packages is bound to the yearly release trains, e.g. Ganymede, Galileo, Helios... so the next possible release for this new package is Helios next June. On the other hand, maybe this is better than it sounds now because we try to build packages for every Helios milestone. And joining the next release train is something that I would propose to you anyway.
- The How-to on the page that you mentioned below is correct, *except* that the build of the packages changed. This affects the config file and some other parts. I can offer that we work on the new package together when you are able to deliver content (at the same time we can update the docs on the wiki).
Regards, Markus
2009/8/20 Zsolt Beothy-Elo <zsolt.beothy-elo@xxxxxxxxx>
Hi *@epp-dev,
The Eclipse SOA Initiative an Industry Working Group, which at the moment is in the proposal phase, plans to deliver an EPP package named "SOA package". It seems that I will be the package maintainer and therefore have just some questions.
- When would be the earliest possible date to release the package. The working group would like release it in the week Sept. 28, which means we would have to release it together with Galileo SR1
- If the schedule planned by the working group is to tight and we have to postpone the release is it now possible to release EPP packages in between simultaneous releases. I know that in the past this was not possible.
- Is the how-to at http://wiki.eclipse.org/EPP/How_to_create_a_package still accurate? Otherwise I would be more than glad to get some guidance how to further proceed.
Regards
Zsolt Beothy-Elo
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