RE: [epp-dev] Mac Carbon vs. Cocoa builds

["Mike Milinkovich" <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric,

I am not involved in this topic at all, but I wanted to mention that
characterizing Adobe as uninvolved in EPP and therefore of no relevance to
these decisions seems a little unfair. Adobe has contributed significantly
to SWT on the Mac. Scott Kovatch basically drove the Cocoa port. So they
have probably done more than any other in helping Eclipse modernize its Mac
support.

I would also point out that Eclipse as a community is very strongly
interested in commercial adoption. If a company as committed as Adobe to
shipping great products on the Mac says they still need Carbon (and btw I
don't know where you got that information from) then perhaps it's not such a
bad idea?

In general, I find trying to paint any of these topics as an "us versus
them" debate is unhelpful. 

My main point here is not to debate the merits of any particular choice by
the EPP project on what packages to support. And it would be great if Adobe
wanted to help EPP builds. We're always looking for more help! 

Thanks.

Mike Milinkovich
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Eric Rizzo
> Sent: June-26-09 10:23 AM
> To: epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [epp-dev] Mac Carbon vs. Cocoa builds
> 
> Ian,
> I find it interesting that the driving force behind maintaining the
> Carbon build seems to be one member company, Adobe. And that member
> company does not appear to me to contribute any resources to the EPP
> project - is that correct?
> Interesting, that is...am I missing something more subtle, or it is just
> that EPP is doing a large member company a "favor" here? (not
> necessarily anything wrong with that, I'd just like to understand the
> motivations for continued maintenance of a "deprecated" technology).
> If EPP is going to continue to maintain Carbon builds, it stands to
> reason that whomever is most interested in having them available should
> also be contributing resources. As far as I can tell, it is Adobe that
> is most interested in Carbon builds, but are they actively participating
> in EPP?
> 
> Sorry to be asking the "hard" questions, but this strikes me as somewhat
> of a problem, unless I've overlooked or missed their participation (I do
> realize that I'm somewhat new to EPP participation myself). The Eclipse
> community (including myself) constantly tells users that they can't just
> get what they want without participation; seems that we should hold
> member companied to the same standard on specific projects, no?
> 
> Eric
> 
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