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Re: [epp-dev] Status of Galileo M5 builds
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Wayne is exactly correct about the nature of my concern as a user
(specifically, as someone who is not reading the dev lists and only has
the web site, wiki, and newsgroups as sources of information).
Believe me, as the member of a product development team I completely
understand the difficulties in p2-izing builds. My criticism was not
with the fact that the EPP builds are behind schedule, but rather that
the status is not being communicated to users. I would never presume to
criticize the EPP team for something that my own team hasn't figured out
yet :-) I think if you read my message again you'll see that I was
careful to talk about the communication aspect.
Anyway, thanks for the update. Wayne, I would be very happy to see
either the EPP homepage make mention or have the Milestones link go to a
page that says "Galileo Coming Soon" or something similar. I also think
the Galileo wiki page should be updated; it uses a Google calendar, so
I'm not sure who would own that.
Eric
On 3/2/2009 9:35 AM, Wayne Beaton wrote:
It'd still be nice to see a note on the website that indicates this to
the average consumer.
FWIW, one of the reasons why Eric was invited to join the Technology PMC
is because he primarily looks at the projects from the outside-in. If
Eric is having troubles or concerns about this, then there's a good
chance that a significant part of our community is also having trouble
with this.
Putting my project committer hat on... would you like me to try and add
a few words to the site describing the issue?
Wayne
Markus Knauer wrote:
Hi Eric,
the communication is not that bad... ;-) Maybe you missed an important
email from January 7th that I sent to different mailing lists, such as
cross-projects, planning-council, etc. ("EPP planning update for
Galileo"):
This year we are going to change to use p2 to build the packages.
We will also be changing how the packages are defined to use the
PDE product file format. The plan is to have both these changes
done and an initial build completed by EPP M5.
Unfortunately this took longer than I expected and after going a step
into the wrong direction, I think we found a p2 way to build the
packages that is easier for us (and the package maintainers). There
are still some things to work out, but I hope to have packages
available until the end of this week.
Markus
2009/3/2 Eric Rizzo <erizzo-eclipse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Two questions about Galileo M5 builds:
1) what is the status? The Galileo wiki page
(http://wiki.eclipse.org/Galileo_Simultaneous_Release#Milestones_and_Release_Candidates)
says they were supposed to be available more than 2 weeks ago.
2) WHY is there no information available on the EPP home page or the
wiki about the status? That is unacceptable, especially since the EPP
page has a link to download "milestones" but it points to the
Ganymede SR2 release.
More generally, the EPP team is doing a very poor job of
communicating to the user community. Putting my Technology PMC hat
on, this is something that must be corrected.
Eric
