Re: [epf-dev] OpenUP & Scrum

[Per Kroll <pkroll@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

i agree with Ricardo, but Ronaldo's
comments indicate that we should make that more clear.
I would also make it crisper how you
execute within an iteration. I think we are still fuzzy around that...
We describe the right things, you implement
an application in "micro-increments", with each micro-increment
being 1/2-3 days of effort, and each micro increment should be tested (TDD)
and integrated into your build. With 5 people and 4 week iteration, you
would have ~50 micro-increments in an iteration, which roughly correspond
to the 30-80 bugzilla entries we address for an iteration in the OpenUP
project...

I do not think this comes out clear,
so I will suggest that I write a guideline on 'micro increments'.

Cheers

Per Kroll
STSM, Manager Methods: RUP / RMC
Project Lead: Eclipse Process Framework
Rational Software, IBM Corp
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Ricardo Balduino/Cupertino/IBM@IBMUS
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Ronaldo, 

I don't see any conflicts between the management practices suggested by
Scrum and OpenUP. 
The major building blocks of Scrum are reflected in OpenUP with different
names (i.e., Work Items List for Product Backlog, Iteration for Sprint,
Daily Meetings for Daily Scrums, etc). 

The concept of potentially shippable product functionality is inherent
in OpenUP (and for that matters in other UP processes). The objective in
every iteration is to demonstrate incremental value to stakeholders, and
this is functionality that has been integrated and tested - in other words
a stable build that could potentially be released. That matches with Scrum,
in my opinion. 

Cheers, 

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
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Is there any conflits in the pratices sugested by OpenUP and the Scrum
pratices? I haven't seen OpenUP recomending the concept of funcionality
potentially shippable. Is there some special reason to this?_______________________________________________
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